Innocency Above Impudency, Postscript – To the reader 2
Postſcript.
READER,
SOme paſſages thou haſt, for which there is but his Yea, and my Nay; and therefore, that you may know on which ſide the truth lieth, examine my former book, and his Anſwer, and ſee if that he hath not accuſed that book of many things, that were neither in the book, nor the Authors heart: and by that thou wilt perceive, that he that will not ſtick to belye me in a matter ſo publickly made known, as my book is, will not matter to do the like, and worſe, concerning what I ſpake more private. And alſo compare this Reply with his Anſwer, and ſee if I have falſly related or perverted any ſaying in his book, but have faithfully and impartially tranſcribed them; and ſee if I have omitted replying to any thing that is of weight, or indeed to the lighteſt thing that doth but look like an Argument; and ſee alſo, if he hath not left out many Arguments, and many Pages, to which he ſaith nothing; and whether he hath not added to, and taken from moſt things that he mentions of my book, and then attempts to anſwer it. And whereas he would excuſe his Error of denying Chriſt born after the fleſh, by ſaying, That that which is born after the fleſh, is fleſh, and that which is born after the Spirit, is Spirit: Whether by the rule of Contraries, it doth not undeniably follow, That that which is NOT born after the fleſh, is not fleſh? and then, what doth he leſs, then deny Chriſt to be made fleſh, by the perverting thoſe Scriptures, Joh. 3. and Gal. 4. whatever he ſaith to the contrary? Conſider, and weigh things aright, and the Lord give you underſtanding in all things. VALE.
Reader, thou art deſired to correct theſe two miſtakes, and all others thou meeteſt with, of this or any other kinde.
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FINIS.
REader, Theſe may certifie, That Jer: Ives did not utter any ſuch thing as James Nayler falſly charges upon him, viz. As that all good was not of God: neither did he deny Faith and obedience to be Gods gift, but in the ſenſe mentioned in this Reply: Neither did he ſay any of thoſe things; as, That the Wilderneſs where John baptized was in Jeruſalem, &c. And we do further certifie, That the account he hath given of that Conference at Gerard Roberts, in this Reply to James Nayler, is true; we being there all the time, and heard none of thoſe things, ſave what Jer: Ives hath here acknowledged, and given an Account of in this his Anſwer to that lying Letter. Witneſs our Hands,
John Fry.
Rich. Cleiveland.
William Naſh.
REader, Whereas James Nayler denies that ever he knew of the fetching the laſt Letter mentioned in this book; which Letter was to prove, he had writ ſome things that was falſe concerning Jer: Ives: Now theſe may certifie, That it was publickly declared to his face, That the Letter ſhould be fetch'd for to prove him a Lyer, and accordingly it was: and when the Letter came, he was gone; though it was told him, If he would ſtay, the Letter ſhould be produced, to prove his falſe ſpeaking (though in his book he denies he knew of the fetching of it.) Witneſs my Hand this 21 of July, 1656.
John Fry.
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