Acts and Monuments Volume 2 Part 2, Book 12 · Account 29 · Examination 2
The second examination of Richard Woodman, before the bishop of Chichester, two of his Chapleines: and D. Story at the last came to vsus, the xxvij. day of Aprill.
FIrst, I was sent for to the Marshalsey by Doctor Storie,The second examination of Rich. Woodman, before D, Christopherson, Bishop of Chichester, Doct. Story &c. and was caried to his house besides S. Nicholas Shambles: and when I had spoken to him, he sent me to the bishop of Chichester, and sayde, he would come to him his selfe straight way: and when we were in the Bishops Hall, we had not taried long, but the Bishop sent for me: and when I came before him, I did my duetie to him as much as I could.
Chich.
Then said the Bishop: You be welcome: howe doe you nowe?
Wood.
Well, I praise God, thanking your Lordship for the gentle talke that you hadde with me at my last departing from you.
Chich.
Well, goodman Woodman, I hauehave sent for you of louelove & good wil that I bare to you, to talke with you: and I would hauehave you to tel me your minde in few woordes. For in dede the last time that I talked with you, our talke was so long, that I fell into a great drieth thereby, & hauehave bene the worse in my body euer since. Wherefore I praye you shew me your minde briefly, in those particular matters that I shall demaunde of you, according to your promise that you made when you were with me the last time. How say you, will you?
Wood.
Yea forsooth: I wil answere to any thing that you shall demaund of me (by Gods helpe) as wel as I can.
Chich.
Howe say you by the vij. Sacramentes? for there we leaft off, and there we will begin againe. You sayde then there were but two. How say you now to it? wil you denie all sauing two?
Wood.
I say now, as I sayd then. You sayd, there be vij. sacraments, and I said, I knew but two:Prouing of 7. Sacramentes. but if you could approue seuen by Gods word, when I came before you again, I must needes graunt thē. And you said, if you could not proue them by Gods word, I should not beleue thē: & now I am come to see how well you can proue thē. Herewit… he was moued and all his Chapleines.
Chich.
By GOD and my troth, I weene he thinketh I can not proue them. How say you to the sacrament of Matrimony?
Wood.
Why, my Lorde, Saynt Paule sayeth to Timothy:… A bishop should be faultles: and you vse much swearing, which is a greate fault in a Byshop, of all other, that should be an example to the flocke. Then he and his Prelates were in a great rage wt me, because I reproued hym for his swearing.
Chich.
What, I perceiue this man is worse then he was the last day: what, he taketh vpō him to teach me to speak, as though I could not tell what I had to do.
Priest.
So me thinketh, my Lorde, he is a stout fellowe in deed, as we hauehave seene.
Wood.
Yea, I am stout, because I do that I am commaū ded. I dare not for my life holde my peace, for I shoulde beare your sinne,… the which I will not doe for none of you all, I tell you playnely.
Chich.
Where finde you that you are commaunded to reproue me?
Wood.
If thou see thy Brother sinne, reproue hym: if hee repent, thou hast won thy Brother. But you repent it not, me thinketh, but rather goe about to mainteine the same. Christ sayth: He that breaketh one of the least of my commaundementes, and teacheth men so, shall be called least in the kingdome of heauen: and you goe about to teach men so, as farre as I see.
Priest.
Why my Lord, this man is past cure. I see no hope in him.
Chich.
…No, so me thinketh. I will neuer talke wyth hym more, Go cal M. Story: let him do with him what he wil. He hath bene with his felowes in the Marshalsea, & now he is worse then he was before. I had some hope in him ye other day, but now I see none.
Wood.
No, I prayse God, my fayth hangeth vponupon no mē, but vponupon God.
Priest.
Nay, my Lord, I think he is not the worse for thē: bu… I feare me they be the worse for him. I know this mā of old, before mine old Lord.
Wood.
Well my Lord, looke well to it: will you deliuer me to other men▪ to shed my bloud, and so think to wash your hands of me, as Pilate did by Christ? Nay you can not be so discharged.
Chichest.
I hauehave nothing to doe with you: but of my gentlenes I hauehave sent for you, because you said, you would declare you mind in any particular matter that I would demaund of you.
Wood.
Why, I doe not deny but I will doe so, if you doe demaūd it of me. But you go about to deliuer me to other to kill me? and I know that there is none that hath to do with me but you.
Chich.
Christopherson not yet consecrated, … to … the examination ….I am not consecrated yet: wherfore my Lord Cardinal may examine you, and condemne you, or my Lord of London, for you are now in his Dioces.
Wood.
Yea my Lord, is the matter euen so? Then I perceiue wherabout you go. Nay, I will talke no more wyth you then, if you be at that poynt. Aske me what you will: but I will shew you nothing of my mind. I promise you, I will not aunswere in particuler matters, and so you to accuse me to other, and they to kill me.
Chich.
I goe not about to kill you, but woulde be glad to heare your minde in the sacramēts, that if you vnderstand them not aright, I would be glad with al my hart to shew you my mind how I vnderstand them. For I would you should do as well as mine owne selfe.
Wood.
If you woulde talke with me to doe me good, I would be content to heare you, and shew you my mind: otherwise I would be loth.
Chich.
Nay, I will promise you, if I can do you no good, I will do you no harme: for if I meant to doe you harme, I could lay your owne hande writing against you, but I will not:…ether …trimony … Sacrament. wherefore be in no doubt of me. How say you to ye sacrament of Matrimony? Is it a sacrament or no? How thinke you by it?
Wood.
I thinke it is a holy institution ordeined of God in Paradise, and so to continue to the worldes end.
Chich.
Lo, now you shall see how you be deceiued in that, as you be in all the rest. Come hither. You can read Latin I am …ure.
Wood.
Yea, I can read latin, but I vnderstand very litle.
Chich.
Come to me, you shall see that Paule calleth it a holy Sacrament. For these be the wordes: For this cause shall a man leaue father and mother, Ephe. 5.and shall be ioyned to his wife: and two shall be made one flesh: This is a great Sacrament.S. Paules words be these: …his miste…y is great… ▪ &c.
Wood
I remember such a saying: but S. Paule calleth it not a sacrament. But he sayth: It is a great mystery.
Chich.
Where sayth he so?
Wood.
I am not sure in what Texte it is, but I am sure these be S. Paules wordes, and that he calleth it not a sacrament in all his writinges.
Chichest.
What, the last daye ye were full of Scriptures: here it is written and there it is written. What, wee can rehearse the Scriptures, as well as you. Wherefore, if we be sure it bee written, it is no greate matter for the place. Come hither, I will shew you the place, I thinke, that you meane.
Wood.
I looked, and it was writtē Sacramentum. In the Greeke text S. Paule calleth it misterium. What is a mistery, and what difference there is betweene a mistery and a Sacrament.I know it is a great mistery in the English translation.
Chich.
I permit it be a mistery. What is a mistery?
Wood.
A mystery is (I take it) vnseene: for he sayth, he speaketh betwixt Christ & the congregation. So the great mystery that he speaketh of, I take to be the fayth of them that be maried, which is hid in christ, the which we see not, but Christe. But the deede which is in the congregation, which is the outward mariage we see, but the inward mariage of ye hart we see not. Wherefore Paul calleth it a mystery. And therfore, if it be a sacramēt, it is inuisible to vsus: It is not seene, as other sacraments be.
Chichest.
Nay, I tell you it is a visible Sacrament, seene as the other be: for is not the mariage seen? is not the man and woman seene?
Wood.
My Lord▪ I pray you what is a sacrament?
Chich.
It is the signe of a holy thing.
Wood.
Me thinkes you hauehave certified mee verye well. There neede not be a signe of a holy thing, where the holy thing is it selfe. Then hys Chapleynes woulde hauehave interrupted me, but I desired my Lorde I might say out my minde in the matter. So with much adoe he bade me saye what I could.
There neede not to be a signe of a thing, where the thing is it self.Argument. A thing signified, & a thing signifying can not bee at one tyme in respecte of it selfe, in one subiecte. Matrimony is a holy thing it selfe signified Ergo, Matrimony cannot be a Sacrament signifying a holy thing. Matrimony is a holy thing it selfe and is ended outwardly, and neede no more signes but themselues: Wherefore it canne not be a Sacrament as other bee.
Chich.
Loe, how much you speake agaynste your selfe.The hose in a hosiers stalle, may be a sign… ▪ signifying moe hose to be within: but it is noe signifying signe of it selfe. Neyther againe is eueryevery signe of an other thing to be called a Sacrament. And as for an example? I come by a Hosier, and there hangeth a payre of Hose, the which be Hose, and be a signe of hose that be to …ell within.
Priest.
How say you to this? Now my Lord hath hit you home in deed.
Wood.
He hath hit me perillously, I tell you with sophistry to blinde mine eyes withall. I maruell you be not all ashamed of it. I can answere that, to all your shames, if I might be iustly heard, I tell you playnely.
Priest.
What, you be angry me thinkes.
Wood.
I am not angrye, but I am earnest, I tell you, to see your blindnes and folly.Chichester proueth Matrimony to be a Sacramēt by a payre of hose. I talked of the Scriptures that be written, and it is Gods worde, to prooue my matter true by, and you wil proue your matter true by a paire of hose. And as well can you proue it by that, as by Gods word.
Priest
Why, is there nothinge true, but that is written in the Bible?
Wood.
S. Paule saith to the Galathians the first chapter: If an Aungell come from heauen, and preach any other doctrine then may be proued by Gods word, hold him accursed: & so doe I, I tell you playnely.
Priest.
Here is a Testament in my hand: if I hurle him in the fire and burne him, hauehave I burned gods word, or not?Letters written in the booke speaking properly, be one thing: the testament & worde of God is an other thing. And yet by vse of speach, the booke of the testament is called the testament, as bread, and wine be called the body & bloud of the Lord. I will buy a new for xvj. pence.
Wood.
I saye, you hauehave burned Gods worde, and I beleue, he that will burne a testament willingly, would burn God him selfe, if he were here, if he could: for he and hys word are all one.
Then they made a great laughing at it,
Wood.
Laugh on (quoth I) Your laughing will be turned to weeping, and all such ioy will be turned to mourning. if you repent it not with speed.
Chich.
Then the bishop begon to helpe to cloake the Priestes folly, saying: why, if my Counting house were full of bookes, and if my house should be on fire by chaūce, and so be burned, were Gods word burned?
Wood.
No, my Lord, because they were burned against your will: but yet if you shoulde burne them willingly, or think it well, & not being sory for it, you burn Gods word as well as he. For he that is not sory for a shrewd turne, doth allow it to be good.
Chich.
Folow your vocation: you hauehave a little learning. We hauehave an aultar, whereof you may not eate. What meane…h S. Paule thereby?
Wood.
Heb. 13.There is no manne so foolishe, to eate stones, I trowe.
Chichest.
What Mockers and Scorners be you, to saye no manne will be so foolishe, to eate stones? it is a playne mocke.
Wood.
Why, my Lorde, you sayde I had no learnyng, nor knowledge, nor vnderstanding. Wherefore it becommeth you to make things more plaine to me, & not to aske me such darcke questions, and yet blame me too: me thinke it is too much.
Chic.
I dare say you know what it meaneth wel enough. The most foole in my house will vnderstand my meaning better then you do.
Wood.
There stoode some of his menne not farre of, talking together beside a window. He called one of them by his name.
Chich.
Come hither. I say to thee, thou shalt not eate of this table. What do I meane therby?
The man.
The Bishop of Chicheste… rightly aunswered of his man according to his queston.Forsoothe, my Lorde, you woulde not hauehave mee eate of this table, laying his hand thereuppon. With this answere he made all them in the house to fall on laughing, and I could not holde it in, but burste out with laughter, and sayd.
Wood.
Hee hath expounded the matter almoste as well as I.
Chich.
He meaneth well enough, if you woulde vnderstand him.
Aunswere me agayne, to make it more playne. I saye to thee, thou shalt not eate of this Table. What meane I thereby?
The man.
Forsoothe you woulde not hauehave mee eate thys Table.
Wood
These wordes made them al laugh. Wherwith the bishop was almost angry, because the answere proued no better, and sayd.
Chich,
He meaneth that I would not hauehave him eate anye of the meat that is set vponupon this Table. How sayest thou, doest thou not meane so?
The man.
Ai…, Aio.Yes forsooth my Lorde, that was my meanyng in deede.
Wood.
Yea, my Lorde, nowe you hauehave tolde him what you meane, he can say so too: and so could I hauehave done (as litle witte as I hauehave) if you had sayd Paule meant that no man might eat of that which was offered vponupon the aultar, but the priestes.
Chich.
Yea, I perceiue you vnderstande the meaning of Paule well enough, but that you list to cauell with me.
Wood.
Why, my Lord, doe you thinke I vnderstand such darcke places of the scripture, without learning? you sayd euen now, I had no knowledge nor learning, wherefore I aunswered you, as you iudged of me.
Chich.
Sacrament of the Aultar.Well, let this matter passe, and let vsus turne to the principall agayne. Howe say you by the Sacrament of the Aultar?
Wood.
You meane the sacrament of the body and bloud of Iesus Christ.
Chic.
I meane the sacrament of the aultar, and so I say.
Wood.
You meane Christ to be the aultar, do you not?
Chich.
I mean the sacrament of the aultare in the church. What, is it so straunge to you?
Wood.
It is straunge to me in deede, if you meane the aultar of stone.The aultar how it is to be taken, and where it is.
Chich.
It is that aultar that I meane.
Wood.
I vnderstand not the aultar so.
Chich.
No, I thinke so in deede: and that is the cause that you be deceiued. I pray you, how doe you vnderstand the aultar then?
Wood.
If you will geue me leaue till I hauehave done, I will shew you how I vnderstand the aultar, and where it is.
Chich.
Yes, you shall hauehave leaue to say your minde, as much as you will.
Wood.
It is written. Mat. 18. That wheresoeuer two or three be gathered together in Christes name, Math. 18.there is he in the midst among them: and whatsoeuer they aske the father vponupon earth, it shalbe graunted them in heauen, agreeing to the 5. of Math. saying: When thou commest to offer thy gift at the aultar, and there remēbrest that thy brother hath ought agaynst thee, Math. 5.leaue there thy offering, and go first and be reconciled to thy brother, and then offer thy gift. The priests would hauehave interrupted me: but the bishop bad them let me alone.
Chich.
You shall heare a prety conclusion anone.
Wood.
I pray you let me make an end, and then find fault with me if you can. Now to the matter. In these two places of scripture,Christ the true and onelyonly Aultar. I proue that Christ is ye true aultar, wher on eueryevery christian man & woman ought to come and offer their giftes. First wheresoeuer the people are gathered together in Christes name, there is he in the midst: & where he is, there is the aultar, so that we may be bold to come & offer our gift, if we be in louelove and charity: if we be not, we must leaue there our offering, and go first and be reconciled to our brother, & agree with him quickely, and so forth, and then come and offer thy gift. Some will say, how shal I agree with my aduersary,The place of Math. … expound… when he is not nigh by a hū dred miles? may I not pray till I hauehave spoken with him? To al such I answere: if thou presume to pray among the faithful, wyshing any euil to any mā, womā or child, thou askest vengeaunce vponupon thy selfe. For no such asketh any thing els of the Lord in his prayer. Wherefore agree with thy aduersary: yt is, make thy life agreable to Gods word. Saye in thy harte without dissimulation, that thou askest God and all the world forgeuenes from the bottom of thy hart, entending neuer to offēd thē any more. Thē all such may be bold to come & offer their gifte, their prayer on the aultar, where ye people of god be gathered together. Thus hauehave I shewed you my mind, both of ye aultar, & of the offering, as I vnderstand it.
Chich.
Doe you vnderstand the offering and the aultar so? I neuer heard any man vnderstand it so, no not Luther ye great hereticke, that was condēned by a generall Coūcell, and his picture burned.
Wood.
If he were an heretick, I thinke he vnderstoode it not so in deed: but I am sure all Christians ought to vnderstand it so.
Chich.
O what vayne glory is in you, as though you vnderstood all thing, & other men nothing. Heare me: I will shew you the true vnderstanding, both of the aultar, & the offering on the aultar. We hauehave an aultar (sayd Paul) that ye may not eate of▪ Heb. 13.meaning thereby that no man might eat of that which was offered on the aultar, but the Priest. For in Paules time all the liuing that the Priest had, the people came & offered it on the aultar, mony or other thinges: and when the people came to offer it, and then remēbred that they had any thing agaynst their brother, thē they left their offering vponupon the aultar, and went & were reconciled to theyr brother: and they came agayne and offred their gift, and the Priest had it. This is the true vnderstanding of the place that you hauehave rehersed: wherefore you be deceiued.
Wood.
My Lord, that was the vse in the olde law. Christ was the ende of that. But in deede I perceiue by Paules wordes, the sacrifice was offered in Paules time: yet that maketh not that it was wel done, but he rebuked it. Wherfore, it seemeth to me that you be deceiued.
Chich.
Who shall be iudges betwixt vsus in this matter?The Catholickes will not hauehave the worde to iudge.
Wood.
The xij. of Iohn declareth who shall be iudge in ye last day.
Chich.
You meane the word shall iudge the word: Howe can that be?
Wood.
Saynct Peter sayth: The Scripture hath no priuate interpretation ▪ but one scripture must be vnderstand by an other.
Chich.
And you will vnderstande it one way, and I wyll vnderstand it an other way: and who shalbe Iudges betwixt vsus then?
Wood.
The true church of God is able to discusse al doubtes: to whom I referre it.
Chich.
I am glad you say so, if you will say so in deed.Woodman referreth himselfe to the true Church.
Wood.
My Lord, I neuer meant otherwise.
Chich.
The Church of God doth allow the Sacrament of the aultar.
Wood.
What do you offer now vponupon the aultar?
Chich.
We offer vp in the blessed Sacramente of the Aultar the body of Christ,Doctrine preiudiciall to Christes passion to say that the Sacrament of the Aultar doth pacyfie the wrath of God. to pacifye the wrath of God the Father: and therewith they put off their cappes all, to that abominable Idoll.
Wood.
Saynt Paule sayth to the Hebrues, in the x. chap. We are sanctified by the offering of the body of Iesus Christ vponupon the crosse once for all: and eueryevery Priest is dayly ministring & oftentimes offereth one maner of offering, which can neuer take away sinnes: and that is the offering that you vse to offer. As farre as I can see, you be priestes after the order of Aaron, that offered vp Sacrifice for their own sinnes, and the sinnes of the people.
Chichest.
Nay, Aarons sacrifice was with bloud, whiche signifieth the death of Christe, the whiche was ended vponupon the Crosse by his bloudshedding: but we are Priestes after the order of Melchisedech,The Catholickes make themselues Priestes, not after the order of Aaron but of Melchisedech. the whiche offered breade to the king in remembraunce, and signified the geuing of Christes body in bread & wine at his last supper, the whiche he gaue to his disciples, & commaunded it to be vsed to the end of the world. This is the sacrifice that we offer, according to his word.
Woodman.
Me thinke you hauehave made the matter verye playne to me, that as Christ was the ende of all Sacrifices, so was he the beginning of the Sacramentes, willing them to be vsed in the remembraunce of him, to the worldes end.
Chichest.
What, in remembraunce of hym, and not hym selfe,The Catholickes … the Sacrament doth a …gne signi…g, and the thing it … signi…ied. Another … wordes … make … Sacrament of Baptisme, … childe … to be …ptised? as his worde sayth: Take, eate, this is my body? It is not the signe onelyonly, but the thing it selfe. How say you? is it not his body, after the words be spoken by the priest? How say you? goe briefly to worke, for I can not long tary with you.
Wood.
My Lord, if you will answere me to one sacramēt, I will answere you to another.
Chich.
Yes, I am very well contented with that.
Wood.
If you say the words of baptisme ouer the water, & there be no childe there, is there true baptisme?
Chich.
No, there must be the water, the worde, and the child, and then it is baptisme.
Wood.
Uerye well. Then if a childe bee Baptised in the name of the Father, and of the Sonne, it is not truely baptised.
Chich.
No the childe muste bee baptised in the name of the father, & of the sonne, & the holy ghost, or els it is not truly baptised.
Wood.
Then there may be nothing added, nor takē away from the Sacraments: may there?
Chich.
No, sayd the Bishop.
Wood.
Now, my Lord, I will answere to you, if it please you.
Chich.
Well, how say you. Take, eat, this is my body: is it not Christes body, as soone as the wordes be sayd?
Wood.
My Lorde, I will aunswere you by your owne wordes,The word, water and childe, … Bapti…me: So the word, bread and the receauer … the Sacrament of the Lordes body. that you aunswered me, whi…h is true: the water, the word, and the childe, all these together make baptisme: the bread, wine, and the word make the Sacrament: & the eater, eating in true fayth, maketh it his body. Here I proue it is not Christes body, but to the faythfull receiuer. For he sayd: Take, eat, this is my body.
He called it not his body before eating, but after eating. And Saynt Augustine sayth: Crede, & manducasti: Beleue, and thou hast eaten And Saynt Iohn sayth: He that beleueth in God, dwelleth in God, and God in him: wherfore it is vnpossible to dwell in God, and to eat his body, without a true fayth.
Priest.
The fayth of the receiuer maketh it the body.Then the fayth of the receiuer maketh it his body, & not his word, by your saying. I pray you, what did Iudas eate?
Wood.
Iudas did eat the sacrament of Christ, and the deuill withall.
Priest.
He eat the body of Christ vnworthely, as S. Paule sayth.
Wood.
Nay, S. Paule sayth no such thing. He speaketh not of eating of his body vnworthely, but of the sacrament vnworthely. For he sayth: Who soeuer eateth of this bread, & drinketh of this cup vnworthely, eateth and drinketh his owne damnation, because he maketh no difference of the Lordes body: and not because he eateth the Lordes body. If Iudas had eat Christes body,If Iudas did eate the body of Christ, thē must he be saued. it must needes folow that Iudas is saued. For Christ sayth in the sixt of Iohn: Who so euer eateth my flesh, and drinketh my bloud, hath eternall life, and I will raise him vp agayne at the last day.
Priest.
My Lord, this man is an interpreter after his own minde.
Chich.
I see it is but folly to talke with you: it is but lost labour. How say you? Doe you not beleue, that after the wordes be sayd,Whether bread remayne in the Sacrament. there remayneth neither bread nor wyne, but the very body of Christ really? make me a playne aunswere, for I will talke no more with you.
Wood.
I will make you no directe aunswere, howe I beleue of the true Sacrament. I doe beleue, that if I come to receiue the Sacrament of the body and bloud of Christ, truely ministred,The true confession of Richard Woodman touching the Sacrament. beleuing that Christ was borne for mee, and that he suffered death for me, and that I shall be saued from my sinnes by his bloudshedding, & so receiuing the Sacrament in that remembraunce, then I beleue I do receiue wholly Christ, God and mā, mistically by fayth: this is my beliefe.
Chich.
Why then it is no body without fayth. Gods word is of no force, as you count it.
Wood.
My Lorde, I hauehave tolde you my minde without dissimulation, & more you get not of me, without you will talke with me by the Scriptures: and if you will do so, I will beginne anew with you, & proue it more plainly thre or foure maner of wayes, that you shall not say nay to that I hauehave sayd, your selfe.
Then they made a great laughing, and sayd: Thys is an Hereticke in deede, it is time he were burned: Which wordes moued my spirite, and I sayde to them: Iudge not least you be iudged. For as you iudge me, you shall be iudged your selues. For that you call heresy, I serue God truely with, as you all shall well know, when you shalbe in hell, and hauehave bloud to drinke, and shalbe compelled to say for payne: This was the mā that we iested on, & whose talke we thought foolishnes, and his end to be without honour:Sap. …. but now we may see how he is counted among the Sayntes of GOD, and we are punished. These wordes shall you say, being in hell, if you repent not with speed, if you consent to the shedding of my bloud: wherefore looke to it, I geue you counsell.
Priest.
What, you be angry, me thinkes. Now I will saye more to you, then I thought to hauehave done. You were at Baxill a twelue monethmonth agone, & sent for the Parson & talked with him in the Churchyard, and would not goe into the church: for you sayd: it was the Idols temple. Yea I was with mine olde Lorde, when he came to the Kinges Bench to you, and you sayd many stout wordes to him.
Wood.
That I sayde, I sayde: and where you sayde, I was angrye, I take God to my recorde, I am not, but am zelous in the truth,The zeale of Gods spirite in Richard Woodman. & speake out of the spirite of God with chearefulnes.
Priest.
The spirite of God? hough, hough, hough: thinke you that you hauehave the spirit of God?
Wood.
I beleue surely that I hauehave the spirite of GOD, I praise God therfore: and you be deceiuers, mockers, and scorners before God, and be the childrē of hel, all the sort of you, as farre as I can see. And therwith came in D. Story, poynting at me with his finger, speaking to the bishop in Latin, saying at length.
Story,
I can say nothing to him, but he is an hereticke.D. Story commeth in. I hauehave heard you talke this houre and a halfe, and can heare no reasonablenes in him.
Wood.
Iudge not, lest you be iudged: for as you iudge, you shalbe iudged your selfe.
Story.
What be you a preaching? you shal preach at a stake shortly with your felowes. My Lord, trouble your self no more with him.
With these wordes, one brought woorde that the Abbot of Westminster was come to dyne with the Byshop, and many other gentlemen and women. Then there was rushing away with speed to meet him. Then sayd Doctor Story to my keeper.
Story.
Cary him to the Marshalsee againe,D. Story commaundeth Richard Woodmā agayn to the Marshalsey. and let him be kept close, and let no body come to speake with him.
Wood.
And so they departed. Then one of the priestes begon to flatter with me, and sayd: for Gods sake remember your selfe. God hath geuen you a good wit: you hauehave read the scriptures well, & hauehave borne them wel in memory: It were great pity you should do amisse.
Wood.
What a flatterer be you, to say my wit is good, and that I hauehave red the scriptures well: & but euen now you said I was an heretike & despised me. If I be an heretike I can hauehave no good wit as you hauehave cōfessed. But I think your owne consciēce doth accuse you. God geue you grace to repent, if it be his will.
Priest.
I cal it a good wit, because you are expert in all questions.
Wood.
You may call it a wicked wit if it agree not with gods word. Then one cried: Away, away, here commeth strangers. So we departed, & I came againe to the Marshalsee with my Keeper.