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The Appeal of Injured Innocence · Thomas Fuller

The Appeal of Injured Innocence, Part 3 · Book 11 · Part 2 (2 of 2)

I protest my integrity herein, that I have not started these Objections of my selfe, having had them urged against me; and though I can give a bungling Answer unto them, I desire that the Animadvertor (being better skill'd in Law) would be pleased (if it ever comes again in his way) to returne an Answer as short and clear as the Objections are; and I, and many more, will be bound to returne him thanks.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our Author proceeds, Fol. 196. The Con…ocation now not sitting, and matters of Religion being brought under the cognizance of the Parliament, their Wisdoms adjudged it not onelyonly convenient, but necessary, that some prime Clergy men might be consulted with.] It seems then, that the setting up of the new Assembly, consisting of certain Lords and Gentlemen, and two or more Divines out of every County, must be ascrib'd to the not sitting of the Convocation. Whereas if that had been the reason, the Convocation should have been first warned to re-assemble, with liberty and safe conducts given them, &c.

Fuller.

The Animadvertor now enters the list with the WISDOMS in Parliament, who are most able to justifie their owne Act. Mean time my folly may stand by in silence, unconcerned to return any Answer.

Dr. Heylyn.

Fol. 198. It savours something o… a Prelaticall Spirit to be offended about Precedency.] I see our Author is no Changeling, Primus ad extremum similis sibi, the very same at last as he was at the first. Certainly, if it savour of a Prelaticall Spirit to contend about Precedencies, that Spirit by some …ythagorean Metempsychosis hath passed into the bodies of the Presbyterians, whose pride had swell'd them in conceit above Kings and Princes, and thus cometh home to our Author, &c.

Fuller.

If it cometh home unto me, I will endeavour God-willing to thrust it far from me, by avoiding the odious sin of Pride. And I hope the Presbyterians will herein make a reall and practicall refutation of this note, in Evidencing more Humility hereafter; seasonably remembring, they are grafted on the Stock of the Bishops, and are concerned not to be high-minded but feare; lest if God spared not Episcopacy, (for what sins I am not to enquire), peaceably possessed, above a Thousand years, of Power in the Church of England, take heed that he spare not Presbytery also, which is but a Probationer on its good behaviour, especially if by their insolence they offend God and disoblige our Nation, the generality whereof is not overfond of their Go…ernment.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our Author proceeds, Fol. 203. We listen not to their fancy who have reckoned the words in the Covenant, six hundred sixty six, &c.] I must confesse my selfe not to be so much a Pythagorean, as to find Divinity in Numbers, nor am taken with such Mysteries as some fancy in them. And yet I cannot chuse but say, that the Number of Six hundred sixty six words, neither more nor less, which are found in the Covenant, though they conclude nothing, yet they signifie something. Our Author cannot chuse but know what pains were taken even in the times of Irenaeus to find out Antichrist by this number: Some thinking then, that they had found it in foreign with reference to the persecuting Roman Emperours. Some Protestants think that they had found it in a Dedication to Pope Paul the fifth, which was Paulo Vto Vice-Deo; the numerall letters whereof, that is to say, D.C.L.V.V.V.I. amount exactly unto six hundred sixty six!, which is the Number of the Beast in Revelation. The Papists on the other side find it in the name of Luther; but in what language or how speld, I remember not. And therefore whosoever he was, which made this Observation upon the Covenant, he deserves more to be commended for his wit, then condemned for his idlenesse.

Fuller.

The Animadvertor might herein have allowed me the Liberty of Preterition, a familiar figure in all Authors, managed by them with, Taceo, praetermitto, transeo, we passe by, listen not, &c. when relating things,

Either

Parva, of small moment,

Nota, generally known,

Ingrata, unwelcome to many Readers.

Under which of these three notions, the point in hand doth fall, I am not bound to discover.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our Author proceeds, Fol. 207. Now began the great and generall purgation of the Clergy in the Parliaments Quar…ers, &c. Some of whose offences were so foul, it is a shame to report them, crying to justice for punishment.] And it was time that such a purgation should be made, if their offences were so …oul as our Author makes them. But first, our Author might have done well to have satisfied himselfe in all particulars, before he rais'd so foul a scandall on his Christian Brethren, and not to have taken them up upon hear-say, or on no better grounds then the credit of the first Century, which he after mentions. Which modesty he might have learnt, 1. From the Author of that scandalous and infamous Pamphlet, (whatsoever he was) desisting from the writing of a second Century, as being sensible, that the Subject was generally odious. And certainly, if it were odious in that party to write the same, it must be much more odious in our Author to defend the writing. He might have learnt it, 2. from the most excellent Master in the Schools of Piety and Morality which this Age hath given us, even the King himselfe; who as our Author telleth us, fol. 208. would not give way that any such Book should be written of the vicious lives of some Parliament Ministers, when such an undertaking was presented to him. But if their Offences were so foul, the Writer of the Century had some reason for what he did, and our Author had some reason for what he saith, especially if the putting in of one Herb had not spoil'd all the Pot of Pottage. But first, Qui alterum incusat probri seipsum intueri oporiet, is a good rule in the Schools of Prudence, and therefore it concerns our Author to be sure of this, that all things be well at home, both in his owne Person and in his Family, before he throw so much foul dirt in the face of his Brethren. In which respect Manutius was conceived to be the unfittest man in Rome (as indeed he was) to perform the Office of a Ce…sor, though most ambitiously he affected and attain'd that Dignity; of whom it is affirmed by Velleius Paterculus, Nec quicquam objicere potuit Adolescentibus quod non agnosceret Senex, that is to say, that he was able to object no crime to the younger sort, of which himselfe being then well in years, was not also guilty. And secondly, Non temerè de fratre malt aliquid credendum esse, was antiently a Rule in the Schools of Charity; which our Author either hath forgotten; or else never learned. He would otherwise have examin'd the Proofs, before he had pronounced the Sentence; and not have positively condemned these poor men for such foul offences as cryed to justice for punishment; and of such scandalous enormities, as were not fit to be covered with the Mantle of Charity. But he takes himselfe up at last with a doubt, that there might want sufficient proof to convict them of it. Nothing (saith he) can be said in their excuse, if (what was the main matter) their crimes were sufficiently proved. And if they were not sufficiently proved, as indeed they were not, (no witnesse coming in upon Oath to make good the Charge) our Author hath sufficiently prov'd himselfe an unrighteous Iudge, an Accusator stratrum, as we know who is, in accusing and condemning them for scandalous enormities and foul offences, branding them by the name of Baal, and calling them unsavory Salt, not fit to be thrown upon the Dunghill, yet all this while to be unsatisfied in the sufficiency of the proof. Decedis ab Officio Religiosi Iudicis, is the least that can be said here; and I say no more. OnelyOnly I note, what sport was made by that Century then, and may be made hereafter of this part of the History, in the Court of Rome; to which the libellous Pamphlets of Martin-Mar-Prelate, publisht in Queen Elizabeths time, serv'd for Authentick Witnesses, and sufficient evidence to disgrace this Church. Nor have they spar'd to look upon this whole businesse as an act of divine Retaliation, in turning so many of the Regular and Orthodox Clergy out of their Benefices and Preferments by our new Re…ormers, under colour of some Scandalous Enormities by them committed; under pretence whereof so many poor Monks and Fryers were (as they say) turn'd out of their Cells with like humanity by those which had the first hammering of the Reformation here by law estalisht.

Fuller.

First, as to my selfe, who am most knowing of my owne infirmities: I will confesse them to God, and not plead for them before man. If God's restraining grace hath bridled …e from Scandalous obnoxiousnesse, may he alone have the honour thereof. As for other paines and spots in my Soul, I hope that He, (be it spoken without the least verball reflection) who is the *Mal. 3.2.Fullers sope will scoure them forth with his Merit, that I may appear clean by Gods Mercy.

Rev. 12.13.I know full well who it is, that is tearmed the Accuser of his Brethren, even Satan himself; Hence it is that one observeth, he hath his name, foreign, Diabolus, Divell, and so also in Italian, French, Spanish, with some small variation. It being good reason, that he should keep his name in all Countries, who keeps his nature in all places being a constant delator and traducer of Gods servants; often, without cause; alwayes, without measure.

But I hope, I may say in this point, Get thee behind me Satan, I meane, I may justly thrust both Name and Thing farre from me, even to light where it deserveth.

Some of my Brethren or Fathers rather, I reverence and admire for their eminences: others I commend and will endeavour to imitate: others guilty of humane infirmities, I desire to conceale their faults, and (that not taking effect) to excuse their persons. Such as are past my pleading for, fall under my pitty and have my Prayers that God would amend them: But willingly, much lesse causlessely, I will not accuse any; and my Pen and Tongue hath been, and shall be tender of their Reputations.

Proceed I now to what I have written concerning the Sequestred Clergy of England; wherein I will freely, God-willing, unbosome my mind, and if I perish I perish: I appeal to the Searcher of hearts, if I did not desire to do them all just favour, as I hope to find favour from him when I most need it. But as Marriners when they have both Wind and Tide against them, cannot make their desired Port in a straight Line, and therefore are fain to fetch a compass; Semnably, I desiring to gra…ifie my Brethren, and not destroy my selfe; was …aine to go about, that in any measure I might with safety do it. And there was no compassing of it without compaceing it; No reaching the End without going out of the Way.

First, therefore, I did acknowledge what indeed could not be concealed, and what in truth must be confessed, viz. That some of the ejected Clergy were guilty of foul offences, to whom, and whom alone▪ the name of Baal and unsavory Salt did relate: Nor was it a wonder, if amongst Ten Thousand and more, some were guilty of Scandalous enormities.

This being laid down, and yeilded to the violence of the times; I wrought my selfe by degrees, (as much as I durst) to insert what followeth in vindication of many others, rigorously cast out for following in their affections, their preceding Iudgements and Consciences, and no scandall could justly be charged upon them, pleading for them as ensueth.

Church-History, Book 11. pag. 207.

1. The witnesses against them were seldome deposed on Oath, but their bare complaints believed.

2. Many of the Complainers were factious People, (those most accusing their Sermons who least heard them), and who since have deserted the Church, as hating the profession of the Ministry.

3. Many were charged with delivering false Doctrines, whose Posi…io…s were found at the least disputable. Such, those accused for Preaching that Baptism washeth away Originall Sin, which the most learned and honest in the Assembly, in some sense, will not deny, namely that in the Children of God it cleanseth the condemning and finall peaceable commanding power of Originall Sin, though the stain and blemish thereof doth still remain.

4. Some were meerly outed for their affections to the King's Cause; and what was Malignity at London, was Loyalty at Oxford.

5. Yea many Moderate men of the opposite party, much be moaned such severity; that some Clergy men, blamelesse for life, and Orthodox for Doctrine, were ejected onelyonly on the account of their faithfullnesse to the King's cause. And, as much corruption was let out by this Ejection (ma…y scandalous Ministers deservedly punished); so at the same time the Veins of the English Church were emptied of Much good blood, (some inoffensive Pastors) which hath made her Body Hydropicall ever since; ill humours succeeding in the room, by reason of too large and suddain evacuation.

This being written by me, some ten (in the Parox…sm of the Business) and printed some four years since, was as much as then I durst say for my Brethren, without running my selfe into apparent danger.

If the Papists take advantage at what I have written, I can wash my Hands, I have given them no just occasion; and I hope this my hust defence will prove satisfactory to the ingenuous, That I did not designedly …etract …om any …) Brethren. But, if this my Plea finds no acceptance, and if I must groan under so unjust an accusation, I will endeavour to follow the Counsell of the Mich. 7.9.Prophet: I will beare the Indignation of the Lord, because I have sinned against Him, until He plead my Cause and execute Iudgment for me: He will bring me forth to the Light, and I shall behold his righteousnesse.

Dr. Heylyn.

But to say truth, It is no wonder, if he concurre with others in the Condemnation of particular persons, since he concurrs with others in the condemnation of the Church it selfe. For, speaking of the separation made by Mr. Goodwin, Mr. Nye, &c. fol. 209. he professeth that, he rather doth believe that the sinfull corruptions of the worship and Government of this Church, taking hold on their Consciences, and their inability to comport any longer therewith, was rather the true cause of their deserting of their Country, then that it was for Debt or Danger, as Mr. Edwards in his Book, had suggested of them. What grounds Mr. Edwards had for his suggestion, I enquire not now; though coming from the Pen of one who was no friend unto the Government and Liturgy of the Church of England, it might have met with greater credit in our Author. For if these men be not allowed for witnesses against one another, the Church would be in worse condition then the antient Borderers: Amongst whom though the testimony of an English Man against a Sco…, or of a Sco… against the English (in matters of spoil and depredation) could not find admittance; yet a Scot's evidence against a Sc…t, was beyond exception. Lege inter Limitaneos cautum, ut nullus nisi Anglus in Anglum, nullus nisi Scotus in Sco…um testis admit…atur, as we read in Camden. We see by this, as by other passages, which way our Author's Bowl is biassed, how constantly he declares himselfe in favour of those, who have either separated from the Church, or appear'd against it. Rather then such good people shall be thought to forsake the Land for Debt or Danger, the Church shall be accus'd for laying the heavy burthen of Conformity upon their Consciences, which neither they, nor their fore-fathers, (the old English Puritans) were resolved to bear. For what else were those sinfull Corruptions of this Church in Go…er…ment and Worship, which laid hold of their Consciences, (as our Author words it) but the Government of the Church by Bishops, the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church here by law establisht; which yet must be allowed of by our Author as the more true and reall cause of their Separation, then that which we find in Mr. Edwards?

Fuller.

I knew Mr. Edwards very well, my contemporary in Queens Colledge who often was transported beyond due bounds with the keenness and eagernesse of his spirit; and therefore I have just cause in some things to suspect him; especially being informed and assured the contrary from credible persons.

As for the five dissenting Members, Mr. Goodwin, Mr. Nye, Mr. Sympson, Mr. Bridge, Mr. Burroughs, (to whom Mr. Archer may be reduced) they owed not eighteen pence a piece to any in England; and carried over with them no contemptible summs in their purses.

As for Lay-Gentlemen, and Merchants, that went over with them, such as peruse their names, will be satisfied in their responsible, yea, plentifull Estates.

Sr. MATTHEW BOINTON.

Sr. WILLIAM CONSTABLE.

Sr. RICHARD SALTINGSTON.

Mr. LAWRENCE, since Lord President of the Councill.

Mr. ANDREWES, since Lord Major of London.

Mr. BOWRCHER.

Mr. ASK, since a Judge.

Mr. JAMES.

Mr. WHITE.

And although the last of these failed beyond the Seas, (a cacching Casually with great undertakings) yet was he known to have a very great Estate at his going over.

Yea, I am most credibly inform'd, by such who (I am confident) will not abuse me, and posterity therein, that Mr. Herbert Palmer, (an Anti-Independent to the heighth) being convinced, that Mr. Edwards, had printed some false-hoods in one sheet of his Gangrena, proffered to have that sheet re-printed at his own cost, but some intervening accident obstructed it.

Dr. Heylyn.

Nor can our Author save himselfe by his parenthesis, in which he tells us, that he uses their language onelyonly: For using it without check or censure, he makes it his own as well as theirs, and justifies them in the action, which he should have condemn'd.

Fuller.

This is an Hypercriticism which I never heard of before, and now do not believe. In opposition whereunto I return, that if a Writer doth slily weave another Author's words into his owne Cloath, using them without any quotation, then indeed he adopts them his owne.

Secondly, If he cite the words, with Commendation, or explicite approbation of them, then also he asselfeth them, undertakes for them, and is bound to justifie them.

Thirdly, But if he but barely cite the words, without any Emphasis of praise or dispraise, (the case now in hand) it amounts to no more, then unto a valeat quantum valere potest, or a Sit fides penes Authorem, it being left to the Reader's Liberty, to believe more or lesse, or nothing thereof; as the Author he citeth, seemeth to be more, or lesse, or not at all credible, to his Discretion.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our Author proceeds, Fol. 216. As appears by his own Diary, which if evidence against him for his faults, may be used as a witness of his good works.] The Diary which our Author speaks of, was the Arch-bishops practicall Commentary on those words of David, viz. Teach me O Lord so to number my dayes, that I may apply my heart unto wisdome.

Fuller.

I appeal to the Reader of my History, whether I have not given his Diary, the due commendation thus writing thereof.

Book 11. page. 218.

He was conscientious, according to the Principles of his Devotion; witness his care in keeping a constant Diary of the passages in his Life. Now he can hardly be an ill Husband, who summes up his receipts and expences every night; and such a Soul is, or wo…ld be good, which enters daily into a Scrutiny of his own Actions. Now an exact Diary is a Window into his Heart who maketh it; and therefore pitty it is that any should look therein, but either the friends of the party, or such Ingenuous foes as will not (especially in things doubtfull) make conjecturall Comments to his disgrace.

Dr. Heylyn.

No memorabl… passage hapned in the whole course of his life, till the end of May, 1633. (when his Papers were seis'… on by Mr. Prin) which he had not book'd in a Memoriall by the way of a Diary or Journall. Out of which, though Mr. Prin excerpted nothing but that which he conceiv'd might tend most visibly to his disgrace and disadvantage, and publish'd it to that end in print; yet when it came to the perusall of equall and indiffer…nt men, it was so far from serving as an evidence of his … (as our Author words it) that it shew'd him to be a Man of Exemplary Piety in himselfe, unmov'd fidelity to his friend, of most perfect loyalty to his Master▪ and honest affections to the Publick, &c.

Fuller.

If I were delighted in carping at slips of Pen or Presse, I here have advantage enough, the Animad…ertor affirming, that the Arch-bishop's papers were seized by Mr. Prin,

1633.

At which time Mr. Prin was in no capacity to make such a seizure, being himselfe in trouble … …is Histriomast… ▪ and the dare (though not confessed in t… Errata) is no doubt m…-printed for 1643. Thus I behold him who carps at such rifles, like o… …ing his N…ighbour for Pedi…us ambulando, when, though the Iury must find for the Pla…niffe, yet he is look…d on but as a vexatious Person for his paines. I could wish that all caviling at Pr…lal mistakes might be forborn, and that every one would read his Adversaries Book, as in his Conscience he conceiveth it intended by the Writer, that so waving all Typographicall escapes, they may come the sooner to the Cause controverted betwixt them.

Dr. Heylyn.

He that shall look upon the list of the things projected to be done, and in part done, by him, fol. 28, 29. will find, that both his heart was set on, and his hand engag'd in, many excellent pieces of work, tending to the great honour and benefit both of Church and State; not incident to a man of such narrow comprehensions, a… some of his profest Enemies were pleas'd to make him. Certain I am, that as Mr. Prin lost his end, so he could not get much thanks for that piece of service.

Fuller.

If Mr. Prin lost his end ▪ he shall have no direction from me for the finding thereof.

I never beheld the Arch-bishop, as a man of narrow Comprehensions, but as one who had in his Head and Heart Stowage enough for great undertakings. OnelyOnly I could wish that his Apprehensions, had been adequate to his Comprehensions; I mean, that he had lived to perfect what he projected, and doe what he commendably designed for pious uses, and the publick good.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our Author goes on, Fol. 217. He is generally charged with Popish inclinations, and the story is commonly told and believ'd of a Lady, &c.] Here is a charge of the Archbishops inclination unto Popery, and the proof nothing but a tale, and the tale of a Lady,

Quid vento? Mulier; Quid Muliere? Nihil.

The substance of the tale is this, that a certain Lady (if any Lady may be certain) who turning Papist, &c.

Fuller.

I will take the Boldnesse to English his Latine Verse, that the weaker Sex may see the strength of his Charity unto them.

What's more fickle than the Wind?

Ev'n a Woman in her Mind.

Fickler what's than Woman Kind?

Nothing in the World we find.

Dr. Heylyn.

This Lady who turned Papist was askt by the Arch-bishop the cause of her changing; to which she answered, that it was because she alwayes hated to go in a croud. And being askt the meaning of that expression, she replyed again, that she perceiv'd his Lordship, and many others, making haste to Rome; and therefore to prevent going in a press, she had gone before them. Whether this tale be true or false, though he doth not know, yet he resolves to set it down, and to set it down also with this Item, that it was generally believ'd. Be it so for once.

Fuller.

This Sarcasm was put upon him, by a Lady, now living in London, and a Countess, whose Husbands father the Arch-bishop married, and thereby brought much trouble and molestation to himselfe. No Oedipus needeth to unridle the Person, easily spel't by putting the Premises together.

Dr. Heylyn.

For not being able to disprove it, I shall quit our Author with one story, and satisfie the equal Reader with another. First for my Author, I have heard a tale of a Lady too, to whose Table one Mr. Fuller was a welcome though a frequent guest; and being asked once by her, Whether he would please to eat the wing of a Woodcock, he would needs put her to the question, how her Ladyship knew it was a Woodcock, and not a Wood-hen. And this he pressed with such a troublesome importunity, that at last the Lady answered with some shew of displeasure, that the Woodcock was Fuller headed, Fuller breasted, Fuller thighed, and in a word, every way Fuller. Whether this tale be true or false, I am not able to say; but being generally believ'd, I have set it down also.

Fuller.

His Tale doth not Quit mine, which was True, and New, never printed before. Whereas his is Old, (made it seemes on one of my Name, printed before I was born,) and false, never by Man or woman retorted on me.

However if it doth Quit mine, He is now but Even with me; and hereafter I shall be ABOVE him, by forbearing any bitter Return.

I had rather my Name should make many causelessely merry, then any justly sad, and seeing it lyeth equally open and obvious to praise and dispraise, I shall as little be elated when flattered, Fuller of wit and learning, as dejected when flouted, Fuller of folly and ignorance.

All this, which the Animadvertor hath said on my Name, I behold as nothing: and as the Anagram of his Name, HEYLYN, NE HILI, NOTHING-worth.

Dr. Heylyn.

But my other story is more serious, intended for the satisfaction of our Author, and the Reader both. It was in November, Anno 1639. that I receiv'd a message from the Lord Archbishop, to attend him the next day at two of the clock in the afternoon. The Key being turn'd which opened the way into his Study, I found him sitting in a chair, holding a paper in both hands, and his eyes so fixt upon that paper, that he observ'd me not at my coming in. Finding him in that posture, I thought it fit and manners to retire again. But the noise I made by my retreat, bringing him back unto himselfe, he recall'd me again, and told me after some short pawse, that he well remembred that he had sent for me, but could not tell for his life what it was about. After which he was pleas'd to say (not without tears standing in his eyes,) that he had then newly receiv'd a letter acquainting him with a Revolt of a Person of some Quality in North-Wales, to the Church of Rome; that he knew that the increase of Popery by such frequent Revolts, would be imputed unto him, and his Brethren the Bishops, who were all least guilty of the same; that for his part he had done his utmost, so far forth as it might consist with the Rules of Prudence, and the Preservation of the Church, to suppresse that party, and to bring the chief sticklers in it to condign punishment, to the truth whereof (lifting up his wet eyes to Heaven) he took God to witnesse; conjuring me (as I would answer it to God at the day of Judgement) that if ever I came to any of those places, which he, and his Brethren, by reason of their great age, were not like to hold long, I would imploy all such abilities as God had given me in suppressing that party, who by their open undertakings, and secret practices, were like to be the ruine of this flourishing Church. After some words of mine upon that occasion, I found some argument to divert him from those sad remembrances, and having brought him to some reasonable composednesse, I took leave for the present; and some two or three dayes after waiting on him again, he then told me the reason of his sending for me the time before. And this I deliver for a truth on the faith of a Christian; which I hope will over-ballance any Evidence which hath been brought to prove such Popish inclinations, as he stands generally charg'd with in our Author's History.

Fuller.

I verily believe all, and every one of these Passages to be true, and therefore may proceed.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our Author proceeds, Fol. 217. However most apparent it is by many passages in his life, that he endeavoured to take up many controversies betwixt us and the Church of Rome.] And this indeed is Novum Crimen that is to say, a crime of a new stamp, never coyn'd before.

Fuller.

I call it not Novum Crimen, which I believe was, in him, (according to his Principles, Pium Propositum; but, let me also add, was Frustraneus Conatus: and that not onelyonly, ex Eventu, (because it did not,) but ex Natura Rei, because it could not take Effect; such the reall Unreconcileablenesse, betwixt us and Rome.

Dr. Heylyn.

I thought, that when our Saviour said Beati Pacifici, it had been sufficient warrant unto any man to endeavour Peace, to build up the breaches in the Church, and to make Ierusalem like a City which is at Unity in it selfe; especially where it may be done not onelyonly salva charitate, without breach of charity, but sal… fide too, without wrong to the faith. The greatest part of the Controversies betwixt us and the Church of Rome, not being in the Fundamentalls, or in any Essentiall Points in the Christian Religion; I cannot otherwise look upon it, but as a most Christian pious work, to endeavour an atonement in the Superstructures. But hereof our Author seems to doubt, first whether such endeavours to agree and compose the differences, be lawfull or not; and secondly, whether they be possible.

Fuller.

I confesse Scripture pronounceth the Peace-makers blessed.Math. 5. In answer whereunto I will take no notice of Iehu his Tart return to K. *2 King. 9.22.Ioram, What peace so long as the whoredomes of thy Mother Iezabel, and her witchcrafts are so many? Rather will I make use of the Calme Counsell of the *Rom. 12.18.Apostle, If it be POSSIBLE, as much as in you lieth, live Peaceably with all Men. Which words, [if it be possible] intimate an impossibility of Peace, with some Natures, in some differences, though good men have done what lyeth (understand it, Lawfully) in their power to performe: such sometimes the frowardnesse of one (though the forwardnesse of the other) side to Agreement, which is the true state of the Controversie betwixt us and Rome.

Dr. Heylyn.

As for the lawfulnesse thereof, I could never see any reason produc'd against it, nor so much as any question made of it till I found it here.

Fuller.

All such zealous Authors who charge the Papists with Idolatry, (and the Animadvertor knowes well, Who they are) do question the Lawfulnesse of such an Agreement.

Dr. Heylyn.

Against the possibility thereof, it hath been objected, that such, and so great is the pride of the Church of Rome, that they will condescend to nothing. And therefore if any such composition or agreement be made, it must not be by their meeting us, but our going to them.

Fuller.

I remember, some (then present,) have told me of a passage at a disputation in Oxford. When Dr. Prideaux pressed home an Argument, to which the *Mr I. Sb.Answerer returned Reverende Professor, memini me legisse hoc ipsissimum Argumentum apud Bellarminum. At, mi fili (returned that Dr.), ubi legisti Responsum? This Objection the Animadvertor acknowledgeth he hath formerly met with: but where did he meet with a satisfactory Answer thereunto?

Let me add; It is not onelyonly the Pride of the Church of Rome, which will not let-goe her Power; but also her Covetousnesse, which will not part with her Profit, which obstructeth all accommodation betwixt us. And if the Church of Rome would, the Court of Rome, will not, quit the Premises; and the latter hath an irresistible influence on the former. In this point, the Court of Rome, is like the Country-man, who willingly put his Cause to Arbitration; but on this condition, to have all the Land he sued for, with the full profits thereof, to a minute past, and his own costs and charges to a farthing. Such and no other agreement, will the court of Rome condescend unto.

Dr. Heylyn.

But as our Author sayeth, that many of the Arch-bishops Equals adjudged that designe of his to be impossible; so I may say (without making any such odious Comparisons) that many of our Author's betters have thought otherwise of it.

Fuller.

Amongst which many of his Betters, the Animadvertor undoubtedly is one of the Principal. Be it so, I will endeavour to be as good as I can, and will not envy but honour my Betters whose number God increase. Sure I am, amongst these many of my Betters, the difference betwixt us and the Papists is made never a whit the better, there remaining still foreign: and though many may manifest much good wil, to advance, nothing hath taken Effect to compleate such a composition.

Dr. Heylyn.

It was the Petulancy of the Puritans on the one side, and the pragmaticalness of … Jesuits on the other side, which made the breach wider than it was at … first: and had these hot Spirits on both sides been charmed a while, moderate Men might possibly have agreed on such equal tearms, as vvould have laid a sure foundation for the peace of Christendome.

Fuller.

Let us behold the Originall breach betvvixt the Church of Rome and Us. I name the Church of Rome first, because confident they caused it; so that vve may say unto them, Pharez, The breach be upon them. This breach vvas made before either Puritans or Iesuits ever appeared in England. As the Animadvertor skill'd in their dates knovveth full vvell. It is therefore suspitious that the Wound vvhichwhich vvas made before these parties vvere in being vvill continue, if both of them vvere extinct.

I behold the Colledge of Sorbonists in Paris as far from Jesuitical pragmaticalness and Dr. I. Cosens, as one free from puritanical petulancy. Yet though the said Doctor hath complyed vvith them so far as he could doe vvith Christian prudence, sal…â conscientiâ; And though the Sorbonists are beheld as the most learned and moderate Papists; yet I cannot hear of any Accommodation betvvixt them, but rather the contrary, even in the point of the Apocrypha (a controversie so learnedly canvased by the Doctor) they being as unvvilling to allovv so few, as he so many Books in the Bible to be Canonical.

And here, let me be the Animadvertor's Remembrancer, (of vvhat perchance he vvould vvillingly forget) hovv it vvas not long since he tvvitted me for saying, that the difference about the posture of the Communion Table, might be accommodated vvith mutual moderation; and novv he holdeth, By the same means, an expedient betvvixt us and the Papists may be advanced.

Dr. Heylyn.

Moderate Men might possibly have agreed on such equall termes; as would have laid a sure foundation for the Peace of Christendome.

Fuller.

My name is Thomas. It maketh me the more distrust thereof, because I see at this day most cruel Wars, betwixt the Crowns of Spain and France, both which agree to the heighth in the same Romish Religion. I am sorry their differences are paralleled with a sadder instance, of the deadly Wars betwixt the Swede and Dane, both Lutherans alike. And our Sea Wars betwixt us and the Hollander, (both wel paied for) are not yet forgotten. All I collect is this; that if the agreement betwixt us and Papists were expedited to morrow; yet so long as there be severall Greatnesses in Christendome, there will be …stlings betwixt them. And although they are pleased to score their differences (for the greater credit) on the account of Conscience, and Religion; yet what saith St. Iames, From whence *Iames. 4.comes Warres and fightings amongst you? Come they not hence, even of your Lusts, that war in your members? And it is a sad truth, Such the corruption of the humane Nature, that Mens Lives and Lusts will last and end together.

Dr. Heylyn.

Now that all these in the Church of Rome, are not so stiffely wedded to their own Opinions as our Author makes them, appears first by the Testimony of the Archbishop of Spa…ato declaring in the high Commission, a little before his going hence, that He acknowledged the Articles of the Church of England to be true, or profitable at the least, and none of them Heretical.

Fuller.

The Animadvertor hath instanced in an ill Person, and in an ill time of the same Person. It was just when he was a taking his return to his vomit, and to leave the Land, When knowing himselfe obnoxious, and justly under the lash (for his covetous compliance with forreign Invitations) of King Iames; to get leave to be gone, he would say any thing here; and unsay it againe, elsewhere. As little heed is to be given to such a Proteus, as hold is to be taken of Him.

Dr. Heylyn.

It appears secondly by a Tractate of Franciscus de Sancta Clara, (as he calleth himself) in which he putteth such a Glosse upon the nine and thirty Articles of the Church of England, as rendreth them not inconsistent with the Doctrines of the Church of Rome.

Fuller.

By that Parenthesis [as he calleth himselfe] it is left suspitious, that his true Name was otherwise. And he who would not use his own but a false Name, might (for ought I know) put a false Glosse upon our Articles; and though he PUTTETH such a sense upon them, it is questionable whether our Articles will accept thereof. To PUT something upon, sometimes answers to the Latin Word IMPONERE, which is to deceive and delude, and sometimes is Equivalent to our English Word IMPOSE, which soundeth the forceable or fraudulent Obtruding of a thing, against the Will and Mind of Him, or That, whereon it is imposed. Lastly, the Animadvertor cannot warrant us, that the rest of the Church of Rome will consent to the Iudgement of Franciscus de Sancta Clara; and if not, then is the breach betwixt us, left as wide as it was before.

Dr. Heylyn.

And if without Prejudice to the Truth, the Controversies might have been composed, it is most probable that other Protestant Churches would have sued by their Agents to be included in the Peace.

Fuller.

The Animadvertor's Prudent and Politick Probability that other Protestant Churches would, by their Agents, sollicite an Inclusion into such a peace, mindeth me of the Distich wrot on the sumptuous Cradle, gorgiously trimmed for the Child of Queen Mary by Philip King of Spain.

Quam Mariae Sobolem, Deus Optime Summe, dedisti;

Anglis incolumem redde, tuere, rege.

O may the Child, to Mary God hath given;

For ENGLANDS good be guarded safe by Heaven.

Whereas indeed this Child, pretended at White-hall, may be said born at Nonsuch, proving nothing but a Mock-mother-Tympany.

I cannot but commend the kindnesse and care of the Animadvertor, for keeping this Babe when born; I mean the agreement betwixt Us and the Papists. But let us behold it born, see it first affected, and then we shall know, whether forreign Protestant Churches will dandle this Infant, or destroy it; I mean whether they will declare for, or Protest and remonstrate against it. It will be time enough, then, for both our Survivor to return an answer.

Dr. Heylyn.

If not; the Church of England had lost nothing by it, as being HATED by the Calvinists, and not lov'd by the Lutherans.

Fuller.

Short and sharp, much matter in few Words, and little Truth in much Matter. Our Church of England in Relation to forraign Protestant Churches is here by the Animadvertor represented in a strange posture; like another *Gen. 16.22Ishmael, whose hand was against every one, and every one's against Him.

That our Church is not HATED by the Calvinists appears by many and plain passages in the Books of those who are foreign seeming Pillars amongst them Calvin, Beza, Zanchy, Deodat, Mollinaeus, &c. who (notwithstanding some small differences betwixt us) lovingly give us the Right hand of Fellowship.

The Animadvertor discovers himselfe as little States-man as Divine in advising the Church of England, by making Foes of her Friends, to make Friends of her Foes; by incurring the Enmity of forreign Protestants, thereby to procure the Amity of Papists.

The best is, there is no danger to see that day. The poor Woman in the Gospel, was troubled with a double Issue, the one of Blood, the Life in her Body, and the other of Money, the Life-blood of her Estate; but the *Luke. 8.43.latter was quickly stanched having spent all her Living on Physitians to no purpose. Thus successelesse have their pains proved hitherto, who have endeavoured an accommodation betwixt us and Rome, so that the Wound betwixt us may justly be beheld as incurable.

Dr. Heylyn.

But our Author will not here delist (so soon hath he forgotten his own Rule made in the case of Mr. Love) and therefore mustereth up his faults, viz. 1. Passion, though an humane frailty, 2. His Severity to his Predecessor, easing him before his time, and against his Will, of his jurisdiction: 3. His over-medling in State-matters: 4. His imposing of the Scottish Liturgy. Of all which we have spoke so much upon other Occasions, that is to say, Numb. 246.251.289.259. and therefore do not count it necessary to adde any thing here.

Fuller.

I shall, God willing, remember and practise my Rule in the Case of Mr. Love, when the Animadvertor I sear will be sound to have forgotten it: here are four faul…s of the Arch-bishop mustered up by me; and is it not a thin Muster indeed? When a Gentleman was told, that he would be much ashamed, if all his faults were written in his forehead; he (in my Mind) modestly, and wittily replyed, that he should be right glad that his Face could hold them all: Happy is that man whose faults may be reduced to the number of Four.

I have in my Reply to the forecited pages of the Animadvertor, returned my answer unto them; and therefore, to use his language, account it unnecessary to adde any thing here.

I have done no wrong to the Arch-bishop's Memory, if I have charged him with four …aults, and to overpoize them, have given him many Commendations, in several places of my Book, which here I will sum up to confute that Loud and late Untruth of the Animadvertor, when saying,

Page. 218.

Our Author gives us nothing of this PRELATE but his WANTS and WEAKNESSES.

The Praise I gave him is reducible to four heads, NATURALLS or Corporalls about his Body or Person; MORALS or Civills touching his demeanor to others; INTELLECTUALLS, whether Innate or Acquisite by his own Industry; SPIRITUALLS or Supernaturalls to which his Benefactions (as the fruit of a Lively Faith) are reduced.

NATURALLS.

*All these Quotations are taken out of the eleventh Book of my Church History.1. Nephew to a Lord Major of LONDON therefore not basely Born, page two hundred and sixteen, Paragraph. 71.

2. Chearfull in countenance. Page. 119. paragraph. 84.

3. A sharpe and pierceing eye, Ibidem.

4. Gravity and quicknesse were well compounded in his Face, Ibidem.

5. So chearfull his Countenance (when ascending the Scaffold) as rather to gain a Crown than lose his Head, page. 215. paragr. 68.

MORALLS.

6. He was temperate in his dyet, pag. 218. parag. 78.

7. Chaste in his Conversation, ibid.

8. Plaine in his Apparrel, ibid. paragr. 79.

9. Not preferring his owne Kindred without merit, ib. pa. 80.

10. Promoting Men of Learning and Abilyties, ibid.

11. Covetousnesse he perfectly hated, ibid. parag. 81.

12. Had no project to raise a Name or Family, ibid.

13. Abridged Courtiers Bribes, pag. 218. paragr. 76.

14. But not their Fees for Church Preferments, ibid.

15. Not ambitious as appears by his refusing a CARDINALL'S CA… once and again offered him, page. 149. paragr. 47.

INTELLECTUALLS.

16. He had a cleare Iudgement, pag. 119. paragr. 84.

17. Of a firme Memory, ibid.

18. One of the greatest Schollars of our Nation, page. 216. par. 71.

19. Having an Experimentall knowledge of all conditions of Clergy-men, page. 217. par. 72.

SPIRITUALLS.

20. A strict Observer of the Lords-day in his own Person, pag. 147. para. 38.

21. Moderate in pressing the Book of sports in his owne Diocese, ibid. par. 41.

22. A worthy Instrument in moving King Charles to so pious a Work as the restoring of the Irish Impropriations, pag. 149. paragr. 45.

Thus I did vvrite in his due praise as much as I durst, and though lesse then his Friends expected, more than I am thanked for. All I vvill adde is this, seeing his Head vvas cut off by the …xe, it had been madnesse in me to run my Neck into the Halter, in taxing those of cruelty and unjustice, vvhichwhich caused his Execution.

Dr. Heylyn.

And so I leave him to his Rest, in the BOSOME OF ABRAHAM in the LAND OF THE LIVING.

Fuller.

Bosome of Abraham, is a Scripture-Expression, to signifie the repose of the souls of such Saints, vvho departed this life before the asscention of our Saviour into Heaven. Where ever the bosome of Abraham be, it is good to be there; and hence it is frequently used by the Fathers, to denote the happy condition even of such vvhichwhich departed in the Faith since Christs ascention.Conf…ssio. lib. 9. cap. 3. Quicquid illud est, (saith St. Augustine) quod illo significatur sinu, ibi Nebridius meus vivit, dulcis amicus meus. For the main, it is a Synonymon vvith Heaven, and probably all the persons therein, are receptive of a higher degree of Glory after the Day of Iudgement.

LAND OF THE LIVING, is an Old Testament-Phrase; vvhichwhich some narrow-breasted Commentators have confin'd to Temporal Happinesse, but importeth much more in my Opinion even final Felicity, as may appear by *Psal. 27.13.David his Expression. I had fainted unlesse I had beleeved to see the goodness of the Lord in the LAND OF THE LIVING.

I have stay'd the longer in the Stating of these two Expressions, that I may the more safely and sincerely concurre, as I do, with the Animadvertor's charity in the final Estate of this Prelate: with whose Memory my Pen here makes no Truce, but a perfect peace, never hereafter to let the least disgracefull drop of Inke to fall upon it.

Dr. Heylyn.

From the Arch-bishop of Canterbury, I should proceed to Dr. Williams, Archbishop of York; but that I must first remove a Block which lyes in my Way. Our Author having told us of the making and Printing the Directory, is not content to let us see the cold entertainment which it found when it came abroad, but lets us see it in such tearms as wee did not looke for.

Fuller.

This Block is no bigger then a Straw, so that a flea may leap over it: but the Animadvertor is pleased to see all things thorough a Magnifying-Glasse, as will appear hereafter.

Dr. Heylyn.

Fol. 222. Such (saith our Author) was, call it constancy, or obstinacy, love or doting of the generality of the Nation, on the Common prayer, that the Parliament found it fit, yea necessary, to back their former Ordinance with a second.] Assuredly, the generality of the people of England is much beholding to our Author, for making Question, whether their adhering to the Liturgy, then by Law established, were not to be imputed rather to Obstinacy and Doting, than to Love and Constancy?

Fuller.

It is no Question in my Iudgement or Conscience, when it is out of all Question, as either never started or soon decided therein: but a Question it is in the practise of our distracted age, which I behold like the Citty of Ephesus, *Acts. 19.32.Some cryed one thing, some another, for the Assembly was confused. Till this Tumult be appeased, I desire to stand by in silence, and give every Man his own Words, Some call Constancy and Love, which side I doe seem secretly to favour, for giving it the upper hand, and naming it in the first place. Others call it Obstinacy and Doting, as they are severally perswaded. What is my Offence, or where is the Block the Animadvertor complaineth of, as if he needed to call for Leavers to remove it?

Dr. Heylyn.

The Liturgy had been lookt on as a great Blessing of God upon this Nation, by the Generality of People, for the space of fourscore years and upwards; they found it established by the Law, seal'd by the Bloud of those that made it, confirm'd by many Godly and Religious Princes; and had almost no other forme of making their addresses to Almighty God, but what was taught them in the Book of Common Prayer. And could any discreet man think, or wise man hope, that a Form of Prayer, so universally receiv'd, and so much esteem'd, could be laid by without Reluctancy in those who had been so long accustomed to it? or called Obstinacy or Doting in them, if they did not presently submit to every New Nothing, which in the Name of the then disputable Authority should be laid before them. And though our Author doth professe, that in the Agitating of this Controversie pro and Con, he will reserve his private opinion to himselfe; yet he discovers it too plainly in the present passage. Quid verba audiam, cum facta videam? is a good rule here. He must needs shew his private Opinion in this point, say he what he can; who makes a Question, whether the Adhesion of the People generally to the publick Liturgy, were built on Obstinacy and Doating, or on Love and Constancy.

Fuller.

I concurre with the Animadvertor in his Encomiastick Expressions on the Common Prayer. Otherwise, nothing new, occurs in this, which was not in the former Paragraph. And therefore, the Blow being the same (onelyonly layed on with a little more eagernesse) I conceive the same Guard will serve to defend it, without any further repetition.

Dr. Heylyn.

But, if it must be Obstinacy or Doating in the generality of the People, to adhere so cordially to the Book of Common Prayer, I marvell what it must be called in Stephen Marshall of Essex (that great Bell-Weather, for a time, of the Presbyterians) who having had a Chief hand in compiling the Directory, did notwithstanding Marry his owne Daughter by the forme prescribed in the Common-Prayer-Book; and …aving so done, paid down …ive pounds immediately to the Church-Wardens of the Parish, as the Fine or Forfeiture for using any other forme of Marriage, then that of the Directory. The like to which (I have credibly been informed) was done by Mr. Knightly of Fawsley, on the like occasion, and probably by many others of the same Straine also.

Fuller.

All this is Nothing to me, who am not bound to answer for the Actions of other Men. I know there was in England a Juncture of Time, which in this point may be compared to the Evening TWILIGHT; so called from TWALIGHT or double Light, the one of the Day not wholly gon down, the other of the Candle, but newly set up. Such the Crepusculum vespertinum in our Land, when the Day of the Liturgy yet dimly shined, and the Candle of the Directory was also lighted; a short Candle, which presently burnt down to the Socket. It is possible that in this Coincidence, some in Majorem Cautelam, twisted the Liturgy and Directory together, as since some have joyned to both, Marriage by a Iustice of Peace; that so a Threefold Cable might not be broken. Let them, which best can, given an account of their own Carriage herein.

Dr. Heylyn.

With the like Favour he beholds the two Universities, as he doth the Liturgy, and hard it is to say, which he injureth most.

Fuller.

I injure neither of them. But in this passage, the Animadvertor onelyonly whets his Sword, and I scoure my Shield, preparing against his deadly blow, in the next Paragraph.

Dr. Heylyn.

And first beginning with Oxford, he let us know that, Fol. 231. Lately certain Delegates from the Univesity of Oxford, pleaded their priviledges before the Committee of Parliament, that they were onelyonly visitable by the King, and such who should be deputed by him. But their Allegations were not of proof against the Paramount power of Parliament; the rather because a passage in an Article at the rendition of Oxford, was urged against them, wherein they were subjected to such a Visitation.] Our Author here subjects the University of Oxford to the power of the Parliament, and that not onelyonly in regard of that Paramount power, which he ascribes unto the Parliament, that is to say, the two Houses of Parliament (for so we are to understand him) above all Estates; but also in regard of an Article concerning the surrendry of Oxford, by which that University was subjected to such Visitations.

Fuller.

When I see a Corslet shot thorough with a Musket bullet, and the Person wounded that wore it, I may safely say, that Corslet is not of proof against the Musket. So when I behold the Pleadings of the Delegates neglected and null'd, I may say that de Facto they were not of proof against Parliamentary power. A passage possibly written by me, (such my affection to my Aunt Ox…ord,) with more griefe then it is read by the Animadvertor with anger; but Truth is truth whether it be writ by one Sighing or singing; readd by one Smiling or Frowning.

The Reader needs no Interpreter to expound the word Parliament, as taken generally at this time, (Successe having beaten the s…se thereof into Mens Heads) for the two Houses. Loqui cum …ulgo in this case, I hope is no fault; These two Houses at this time maintained their ENTHYMEM to be a compleat SYLLOGISM concluding all Persons under them; presuming that the King, though not Personally, was Vertually with them, A position which I have no calling to examine. As for the Clause in the Article which hooked the University under Parliamentary Visitation, heare how the Animadvertor reports it.

Dr. Heylyn.

I find indeed, that it was agreed on by the Commissioners on both sides touching the Surrendry of that City; That the Chancellor, Masters, and Scholars of the University of Oxon, and the Governors and Students of Christ-Church of King H. 8. his Foundation, and all other Heads and Governors, Masters, Fellows, and Scholars of the Colledges, Halls, and Bodies Corporate, and Societies of the same University, and the publick Professors and Readers, and the Orator thereof, and all other persons belonging to the said University, or to any Colledges or Halls therein, shall and may, according to their Statutes, Charters and Customs, enjoy their antient form of government, subordinate to the immediate Authority and power of Parliament. But I find not, that any of the Heads or Delegates of that University were present at the making of this Article, or consented to it, or thought themselves oblig'd by any thing contained in it.

Fuller.

This last Clause was eagerly urged by the Committee against the Delegates of the University, and I could wish they could as easily have untied the Knot, as Answered the hardest Objection of Bellarmine in the Divinity-Schools; The King when privately departing Oxford left (if not a Commission) at least Leave with the Lords to make as good …earmes for themselves, and all with them in the Citty besieged, as the Enemy would give and they could get in that streightned condition. The Vniversity therefore was urged by the Committee to have given an Implicite consent to these Articles, and enjoying the Benefit, they must share in the Burthen thereof. To this, the Delegates made many faire and Civill Answers, strengthned with Law and Reason: but alasse, great are the Odds, though Learning be the Answerer, where Power is the Opponent.

Dr. Heylyn.

Nor indeed could it stand with reason, that they should wave the patronage of a gracious Soveraign, who had been a Nursing Father to them, and put themselves under the arbitrary power of those who they knew minded nothing but destruction toward them. And that the University did not think it selfe oblig'd by any thing contained in that Article, appears even by our Author himselfe, who tells us in this very passage, that the Delegates from the University pleaded their priviledges before the Committee of Parliament, that they were onelyonly visitable by the King, and such as should be deputed by him; which certainly they had never done (unlesse our Author will conclude them to be fools or madmen) had they before submitted to that Paramount power, which he adscribes unto the Houses. Nor did the Houses of Parliament find themselves impowered by this clause of the Article, to obtrude any such Visitation on them. And therefore when the Delegates had pleaded, and prov'd their priviledges, a Commission for a Visitation was issued by the two Houses of Parliament in the name of the King, but under the new broad Seal which themselves had made; which notwithstanding▪ the University stood still on their own defence, in regard that though the Kings name was us'd in that Commission, yet they knew well, that he had never given his consent unto it. Whereupon followed that great alteration both in the Heads and Members of most Colledges which our Author speaks of.

Fuller.

The Animadvertor endeavours to runne me on one of these dangerous Rocks, either to condemne the University for Fools and Mad men, whom I Love and Honour for Wise and Sober Persons, or else to make me incurre the Displeasure of the Parliament. And the Philosopher's Answer to the Emperour is well known, That it is ill Disputing with them that can command LEGIONS: The best is, I am not bound to answer to this dangerous Dilemma, keeping my selfe close to my Calling, viz. Reporting vvhat vvas done, but whether Iustly or unjustly, let others decide.

The Animadvertor's Boldnesse herein is for me to admire, not Imitate. When an Old Man vvas demanded the Cause of his Confidence, hovv he durst so freely tell a King of his faults, he rendred a double Reason of his Boldnesse, Orbit…s et Senectus. One, that he had no Children, and therefore Careless to preserve Posterity: the other, that he vvas extreamely Old, therefore lesse curious to keep that Life that vvas leaving him.

How it fareth vvith the Animadvertor in these two Particulars, I know not; sure I am for my self, that I am not so old to be Weary of the World, (as I hope it is not of me); and God having given me Children, I vvill not destroy them, and hazard my selfe by running into needlesse Dangers. And let this suffice for an Answer.

Dr. Heylyn.

Nor deals he much more candidly in relating the proceedings of the Visitation, vvhichwhich vvas made in Cambridge; the Visitors vvhereof (as acting by the Paramount power of Parliament) he more sensibly favoureth, than the poor sufferers, or malignant Members, as he calls them, of that University.

Fuller.

The Animadvertor sees more in me then I can see in my selfe; and because vve are both Parties engaged, (the lesse to be credited in our owne Cause,) be it reported to the Reader, if pleased, to peruse the Conclusion of my History of Cambridge, whether I cast not my Graines of Favour into the Scales of the poor Sufferers. These I call not MALIGNANT MEMBERS, but with this Qualification (so *Hist. of Camb. pag. 168. parag. 35.tearmed). And let not me be condemned for the Ill Language of others.

I say again, As, as an Historian, I have favoured no side but told the Truth; so I could not so far unman my selfe, but that for Humanity sake (to say no more,) I did pitty the Sufferers; on which Account, I incurred the displeasure of the Opposite Party: the best is, causelesse Anger being an Edglesse Sword, I feare it the lesse.

Dr. Heylyn.

For whereas the Authour of the Book called Querela Cantabrigiensis hath told us of an Oath of Discovery, obtruded by the Visitors upon severall persons, whereby they were sworn to detect one another, even their dearest friends. Our Author vvho vvas out of the storm, seeming not satisfied in the truth of this relation, must vvrite to Mr. Ash, who vvas one of those Visitors, to be inform'd in that which he knew before.

Fuller.

No Person more proper or probable to inform me herein, than Mr. Ash one of the Visitors, who I believed did both know the Truth and would not tell a falsehood herein: I was so far from desiring Information in what (as the Animadvertor saith) I KNEW BEFORE, that I protest I know IT NOT YET, being left in such a Mist about this Oath of Discovery.

On the one side, my Worthy Friend Mr. Peter Gunning, Fellow of Clare Hall, (eminent for his Learning and Honesty,) hath since assured me that such an Oath was offered and urged upon him by the Committee. On the other side, I am, on just grounds, daily confirmed in my Confidence, that neither the Earl of Manchester, nor any under him by his Command or Consent enforced such an Oath, so that where to lay the Blame, I know not; and have neither List nor Leasure, further to enquire, who having Blistered my Fingers already, will burn my Hands no more in so dangerous a subject.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our Author proceeds. And on the reading of Mr. Ash his Answer, declares expresly, that no such Oath was tendred by him to that University.] But first, Mr. Ash doth not absolutely deny, that there was any such Oath, but that he was a stranger to it: and possibly he might be so far a stranger to it, as not to be an Actor in that part of the Tragedy. Secondly, Mr. Ash onelyonly saith, that he cannot call to mind, that any such thing was mov'd by the Earl of Manchester; and yet I trow, such a thing might be mov'd by the Earl of Manchester, though Mr. Ash after so many years was willing not to call it to mind. Or else if no such Oath was tendred by him, as our Author is assur'd there was not, that part of the Tragedy might be acted by Mr. Good the other Chaplain, without communicating his Instructions to his fellow Visitor.

Fuller.

Mr. Ash, on serious and Solemn recollection, hath since given me Assurance, both by his word of Mouth, and Writing, that no such Oath was urged to his knowledge; and being a Minister of the Gospell, I am in Charity and Conscience bound to believe Him.

Dr. Heylyn.

And therefore thirdly, I would know why Mr. Good was not writ to also, that having from him the like Certificate, our Author might have had the better grounds for his unbelief, before he had pronounc'd so positively against the Author of that Querela.

Fuller.

The reason was because Mr. Good was dead, and (had I known whither) I did not know by what Carrier to convay my Letter unto him. I pronounced not positively against Querela in point of the Oath, which I left under very vehement Suspitions.

Dr. Heylyn.

Fourthly, and finally, it is not easie to be thought, that the Author of that Book should have vented such a manifest falshood, especially in a matter so derogatory to all Christian charity, and that neither the Earl of Manchester, nor either of these two Chaplains, or any friends of theirs, should in the space of ten years and more, endeavour to wipe off such an odious imputation, till our Author out of pure zeal to the Paramount-power, played the Advocate in it.

Fuller.

I will freely give all my Fees for my Advocation to the Animadvertor, and will Thank him too, if he will be pleased to take them from me to himselfe. It seemes I did not my Worke well, who had nothing but displeasure for my Wages.

Possibly the Earl of Manchester might not know, that the urging of such an Oath was objected against him and his; and probably, if he did know, he satisfied himselfe in his own Integrity and Innocence, leaving the Blame and Shame to fall on such as were guilty thereof.

Dr. Heylyn.

But to return again to Oxford, one of the first effects which followed on the alteration before remembred (though mentioned by our Author in another place) was the rifling of the Treasury in Magdalen Colledge, of which he tells us, lib. 9. fol. 234. That a considerable sum of Gold, being by Dr. Humphry (who had been Master of that Colledge) left in a Chest, not to be opened, except some great necessity urged thereunto, was lately shar'd between Dr. Wilkinson (who then held the place of President by the power of the Visitors) and the fellows there. But first, Our Author is mistaken in Dr. Humphry, though he be willing to entitle him (whom he calls a moderate Non-con…ormis… ) to some benefaction. The summe there found amounted to above twelve hundred double Pistolets, the old Doctor having no fewer than one hundred for his part of the spoile, and every fellow thirty a piece for theirs; each Pistolet exchang'd at sixteen shillings six pence, and yet the Exchanger got well by the bargain too. Too great a sum for Dr. Humphry, who had many Children, and no provident Woman to his Wife, to leave behind him to the Colledge, had he been so minded. The Money (as the Tradition went in that Colledge) was left there by the Founder, to remedy and repair such ruines, as either the casualty of fire, or the ravages of a Civil warre might bring upon it; to which the nature of the Coin being all French pieces (remember that the English at that time were Masters of a great part of France) gives a further testimony.

Fuller

As I have been mistaken in the Person, Dr. Humphry for Bishop Wainfleet Donour of this Gold (following common Report therein); so I could heartily have wished I had also erred in the Thing it self, I mean, that an A motion of such Devoted Treasure had never been done.

The Animadvertor might well have forborn his Sparring at the precious Memory of that learned and pious Dr. Humphry. And the new mention of his name, mindeth me of an old fault, which the Animadvertor not long since laid to my charge, viz. my calling of Thomas Bentham [the DEANE, saith he, of Magdalens Oxford,] the CENSOR thereof. Whereas I exactly followed the words of Dr. Humphry, in his Latin Life of Iewel, page. 73. Tho. Benthamus, quamvis CENSOR, eo Anno, &c. And I humbly conceive that I having so good a Precedent as Dr. Humphry, President of that Colledge, I might as well call their Deane, Censor in English, as He doth in Latin.

Dr. Heylyn.

Secondly, I would have our Author observe, that those whom he accuseth of this act of Rapine, vvere neither high Royalists, nor covetous Conformists, as vve knovv who vvords it; but men agreeable to the times, and of the same temper and affections vvhichwhich himselfe is of: the Conformists never being so covetous as to cast an eye tovvards it, nor the high Royalists so ignoble in their greatest extreamities, as to lay hands on it.

Fuller.

If I be one of their Persuasion, who shared this Gold, (and I must be so because the Animadvertor doth say it) I have acquitted my self a faithfull Historian, in not consulting my own partie's Credit: but unpartially reporting the truth. However I hope God will keep my hands, that my fingers shall not have the GUILT of the Gold of Tholouse.

Dr. Heylyn.

And thirdly, I must needs charge our Author vvith some partiality in aggravating this fact (vvhichwhich indeed cannot be excused) vvith so many circumstances, and passing over the like at Cambridge, as a thing incredible; I cannot beleeve, saith he, Hist. Camb. fol. 38. what I have read in the Querela Cantabrigiensis, That three or four hundred pounds worth of Timber brought to Clare-hall for the repair of that House, was lately taken away; that is to say, inverted to the use of some private persons, vvhom our Author hath befriended vvith this incredulity.

Fuller.

I did not aggravate the fact nor heavily lean on my Pen in relating this Passage, nor layed more vveight thereon than meerly to make it cast Inke. The Animadvertor hath more bitternesse vvrapped up in this one vvord RAPINE than I have stretched out, in all my relation of this accident.

Dr. Heylyn.

Nay so extreamly favourable he is to his friends in Cambridge, as to profess, that, had he seene it, he would not have beleeved his own eyes; vvhichwhich is the highest poynt of partiality, and most invincible unbelief that I ever met vvith.

Fuller.

Herein the Animadvertor is highly-just, (to say no more) unto me. Is it not cruelty to such as vvrite in distracted times, and are, as desirous to impart dangerous Truths to posterity, so also to secure themselves, (as vvho can blame them?) as vvell as they may, to hunt them out of the Covert of any figurative or vvary expression: but none so deaf, as He who will not hear, I mean as to understand, The Animadvertor knevv my Expression pointed at, some too high for me safely to reach.

Knovv Reader, that, vvhat Need (as pleaded) in time of War took from Clarehall, that Conscience in the same person hath since restored to the full, as Dr. Dillingham my vvorthy friend and Master of the Colledge hath enformed me. Novv though Oxford challengeth antiquity to go before Cambridge, yet herein let her not disdain to come after her, and to follow so good an Example of Restitution: for though I have heard, and partly believe, that Dr. Wilkinson did with might and main oppose the Seisure on that Gold; and though they say it appeared, vvhen seriously examined by the visitors, that it vvas not so foul a fact, as generally it is represented; yet it cannot in all particulars be excused, and therein concur vvith the Animadvertor. So that *Gen. 43.12.Iacob's counsel to his Sons may here be seasonably prescribed, Carry the Money back again, peradventure it was an over-sight.

Dr Heylyn.

There remains nothing now to conclude these Animadversions, but some passages relating to Archbishop Williams: in which I must confesse my selfe not willing to meddle, but that I think it is as much against the Rule of distributive Justice to give one man too much, as to give another man too little. Let us see therefore what he saith of this Prelate, and how far he saith truth▪ the whole truth, and nothing but the truth And first, saith he, &c.

Fuller.

The Truth hereof will soon appear by the Sequele. For, if the Animadvertor shall inflame his smoaking faults, hollow in the Ears of every Dormant Suspition, to awaken it against the memory of this Prelate, yea and hang the weight of his greatest Guiltinesse on the wyers of the slenderest proofe, then notwithstanding this his plausibility to the contrary premised, He will plainly appear to have a Pike (the sharpnesse whereof his Death hath not blunted) against Him.

When one was to Preach the Funeral Sermon of a most vitious, and generally hated Person, all wondered what He would say in his praise, the Preachers friends searing, his foes hoping, that, for his fee, …e would force his Conscience to flattery. For one thing (said the Minister) this man is to be spoken well o…, by all, and for another thing He is to be spoken ill of, by none. The first is, because God made Him; the second, because He is dead.

Now seeing besides the premises, common to all Christians, yea to all men many worthy works have been done by the Bishop; and especially, seeing known Animisities were betwixt him and the Animadvertor (which with Ingenuity is an foreign-super-over-commanding motive to silence) the Animadvertor had better forborn all which followeth in my judgement, and in the Judgement of as many learned and Religious men, of all orders and degrees in both Universityes, as ever sollicited him to write against my Church-history.

Dr. Heylyn.

Fol. 227. He sueth to the Parliament for favour, and obtained it, whose General in a manner he becomes in laying siege to the Town and Castle of Abercon-way, &c.] This is the truth, but whether it be the whole truth, or not, I do more then doubt. His suing for and obtaining pardon from the Parliament, precedeth in the order of time, his being their General; and therefore it is not to be thought, but that he had done some special service to the Parliament to prepare the way for such a favour. Before his commitment to the Tower about the Bishops Protestation, he was grown as odious to the Commons, as before he had been honoured by them. He had liv'd some time with the King at Oxford, and is said to have done him good services in Wales; and (which is most) he had a fair temporall Estate, able to yeeld some thousands of pounds for Composition in Gold-smiths hall. So that there must be somewhat in it more then ordinary, which occasioned that he neither came under Fine nor Ransome, as the rest of the Kings party did. But what that was, whether he serv'd them with intelligence when he was at Oxford, or by inhibiting his Tenants and Neighbours to pay their accustomed Taxes to the Kings Forces when he liv'd in Wales, I determine not. Certain it is, that before his redintegration with them, he had been in a manner besieged in his House of Penrin by the Lord Byron, for the prohibiting of sending in such provisions as had been required; and that observing with what carel…ssenesse the Kings Souldiers did attend that service, he caus'd a sally to be made out of the House, and slew many of them. Upon the merit of which service, and the promise of greater, it is no wonder if such Ministers and Sollicitors of his as were imploy'd in that businesse, compounded for him without fine, though not without money. That which our Author tells us of his being their General, seems to have been fore-signified some five or six years before the siege of Conway Castle. For I remember that about such time as he was prisoner in the Tower with the rest of the Bishops, his picture was sold commonly in black and white, in his Episcopal Roabs, with a squa…e Cap on his head, a Rest in his hand, a Musket on his shoulder, and a Bandeleir about his neck. For which fancy duplicate page duplicate page at that time I could learn no reason, though he came up to it at the last.

Fuller.

This is not Contradictory but Additory to what I have written, an Additory only of Suggestions, and Suspitions, no Probations; The Animadvertor's arrow coming off without a Pile, when he saith, I DETERMINE NOT. I had thought when this DOCTOR CATHEDRAE (for Historicall Matters) had so solemnly setled himselfe in the CHAIR, that we should have heard from him some solid Determination, which belike he dares not doe: and in my Opinion, it had been more consonant to Christian charity, not to have discussed what he could not decide; seeing matters of this Nature are to be hunted down, or else it is best they be never started. Is this He who so lately professed his aversnesse to meddle with this Arch-bishop, and is now so ready to run out against Him on all occasions when he hardly hath half an Errand? and rather would than can produce any certainty in his Suggestions?

Dr. Heylyn.

But our Author goes on, Ibid. He was very chaste in his Conversation.] And I hope so too, notwithstanding the scandalous reports of Weldon the namelesse Author aim'd at (in the following words) in his Pamphlet called the Court of King Iames, and some vulgar fames or hear sayes too much credited by a late Historian. But I must needs say, that I am not satisfied in the arguments which are brought to prove it. Wilson in his unworthy History of the reign of King Iames, makes him to be Eunuchus ab utero, an Eunuch from his Mother's womb. The author of the pamphlet called the Observator observed, conceives that Wilson went too far in this expression, and rather thinks, that he contracted some impotency by falling on a stake when he was a Boy, fol, 10. Our Author here seems to incline unto this last, assuring us from such who knew the Privacies and casualties of his infancy, that this Arch-bishop was but one degree remov'd from a Misogynist, though to palliate his infirmity to noble Females he was most compleat in his courtly addresses. But first, the falsity and frivolousnesse of these defences leave the poor man under a worse suspicion than they found him in. His manly countenance, together with his masculine voyce, shewed plainly that he was no Eunuch; and the agreeablenesse of his conversation with the female Sex, did as plainly shew, that he was no Misogynist, or Woman-hater. And secondly, admitting these surmises to be true and real, they rather serve to evidence his impotency than to prove his chastity; it being no chastity in that man to abstain from Women, who either by casualty, or by nature is disabled from such copulations. The vertue of chastity consisteth rather in the integrity of the soul, than the mutilation of the body; and therefore more to be ascrib'd to those pious men, Qui salvis oculis foeminam vident, in Tertullian's language, than to the old Philosopher, who put out his eyes to avoid temptations of that nature. So that if this be all which they have to say for the Bishop's chastity, these advocates had shewed more wisdom in saying nothing, than speaking so little to the purpose.

Fuller.

I am sorry to see the Memory of this Bishop, since his decease, to fall on a sharper Stake than his Body did in his Infancy, even the Pen of the Animadvertors. I confesse, Chastity cannot necessarily be concluded from naturall debility, or casual impotency; there being a possibility of a frying heart in a freezing body, And we know who hath written, Ecclus. 3….20.ut Eunuchus qui amplectitur virginem & gemit.

The casualty of his Infancy was by me mentioned, and cast in as super-pondium or over-weight, to confirme such as were perswaded before, in his Chastity which was never called into Question by any person of credit. As for Aulicus è Coquina, the Courtier cut of the Kitchin, pretending himselfe such a Master of Defence in all Court-controversies. Such as have perused his Book, will find cause to say of Him, Expectavi Lanistam; inveni Scurram, Rabulam, Lnxam.

The conversableness of this Bishop with Women, consisted chiefly, (if not only) in his Treatments of great Ladyes and Persons of Honour, wherein he did personate the Compleatness of Courtesie to that Sex: otherwise a woman was seldom to be seen in his House. Hence it was that the Palace of this Prelate, had more Magnificence than Neatnesse therein, sometimes Defective in the Puntillo's and Nicityes of Daintinesse, lying lower than Masculine cognizance; and as level to a womans Eye, to espy, as easy for her Hand to amend.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our author proceeds Ibid. Envy it selfe cannot deny, but that whither soever he went, he might be traced by the foot-steps of his benefaction.] Amongst which benefactions it was none of the least, that in both the Universities he had so many Pensioners; more (as it was commonly given out) then all the Noble-men and Bishops in the Land together: some of which received twenty Nobles, some ten pounds, and other twenty Marks per annum. And yet it may be said without envy, that none of all these Pensions came out of his own purse, but were laid as Rent-charges upon such Benefices as were in his disposing, either as Lord Keeper or Bishop of Lincoln, and assign'd over to such Scholars in each University as applyed themselves to him. And because I would not be thought to say this without book, I have both seen and had in my keeping, till of late, (if I have it not still) an Acquittance made unto a Minister in discharge of the payment of a Pension of twenty Nobles per annum, to one who was then a Student in Christ-Church. The name of the parties I forbeare; he that receiv'd it, and he for whom it was receiv'd, (and perhaps he that paid it too) being still alive. And possible enough it is, that this Pensioning of so many Scholars had not been past over in silence by our Author, if he had not known the whole truth as well as the truth.

Fuller.

His Pensioning so many Schollers, foundeth more to his credit, than th… paucity of their Pensioners to the honour of other Lords and Bishops. It was impossible that so numerous Pensions, could all issue out of his own Purse, without great Impairing of his Estate. And therfore no wonder if he was not the Giver, but the bare disposer of some of them to Promising Pregnancyes, where Worth and Want did meet together in the same person. And though such payments were not costly to the Bishop, they were no lesse comfortable to such as received them; it being all one with the parched ground whether the Water-pot which be-sprinkleth it, be filled from the Spring, or from the River. This was don by him without any appearance of evill, with the free and full consent of such Incumbents as Hee presented, far from the shadow of Simonia call compliance, seeing besides the Statute to this purpose, in the reign of King Henry the eighth, the Injunctions of Queen Elizabeth do countenance a Bishops assigning five pounds annually out of every hundred pounds of a Benefice to such uses. As for many of the Pensions he paied, I am since as well assured, they were expended out of his own Purse as I am confident the causelesse cavills in our Animadvertor's Book, were bred in his own braines, without any other's Suggesting them unto him.

Dr. Heylyn.

Ibid. Much he expended on the Repair of Westminster Abbey-Church, &c. The Library at Westminster was the effect of his bounty.] This though it be true in part, yet we cannot say of it, that it is either the whole truth, or nothing but the truth. For the plain truth is, that neither the charge of repairing that Church, nor furnishing that Library, came out of his own private Coffers, but the Churches rents: For at such time as he was made Lord Keeper of the great Seal; he caused it to be signified unto the Prebendaries of that Church, how inconvenient it would be both to him and them to keep up the Commons of the Colledge; and gaind so farre upon them that they pass'd over to him all the rents of that Church, upon condition that he should pay the annual pensions of the Prebendaries, School-Masters, Quire-men, and inferiour Officers, and maintain the Commons of the Scholars. The rest, amounting to a great yearly value, was left wholly to him upon his honourable word and promise to expend the …ame for the good and honour of that Church. The surplusage of which expenses receiv'd by him for four years and upwards, amounted unto more than had been laid out by him on the Church and Library; as was offered to be proved before the Lords Commissioners at the visitation, Anno. 1635. And as for the Library at St. Iohns, it might possibly cost him more wit than money; many books being daily sent in to him (upon the intimation of his purpose of founding the two Libraries) by such as had either suits in Court, or businesse in Chancery, or any wayes depended on him, or expected any favours from him, either as Bishop of Lincoln, or Dean of Westminster.

Fuller.

As the worme on a sudden smot the gourd of Ionah, and it withered; so it is possible, that the most verd…nt and flourishing Charity may be fretted and blasted, by ill reports.

There is a Chapiter-Act subscribed with the hands of the Prebendaries of Westminster (the Date whereof I do not at present remember) and the Copy of it is in the hands of my Worthy friend, wherein they thankfully acknowledge the great bounty of this Bishop, in expending so much on the repaire of their Church.

If the Library of St. Iohns cost him more Wit then Money, (as the Animadvertor phraseth it,) sure I am that in the same sense, The founding of Fellowships and Scholler-ships in that Colledge, cost him more Money then Wit.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our Author proceeds, Fol. 228. He hated Popery with a perfect hatred.] But Wilson in his History of great Brittain sings another song, whether in Tune, or out of Tune, they can best tell who liv'd most neere those times, and had opportunities to observe him.

Fuller.

I wonder, That the Animadvertor, who in the Preface to this his Book had branded Wilsons History with the name of a most Infamous Pasquill, maketh mention of any passage therein to a Bishop's disgrace.

Dr. Heylyn.

There is a muttering of some strange offer which he made to King Iames, at such time as the Prince was in Spain, and the Court seemed in common apprehension to warp towards Popery, vvhichwhich declared no such perfect hatred (as our Author speaks of) unto that Religion.

Fuller.

The *Esay. 56.3.Prophet telleth us of Tongues which have MUTTERED perversnesse, and such to me seem they that are Authors of this report.

Dr. Heylyn.

Not was he coy of telling such whom he admitted unto privacies vvith him, that in the time of his greatnesse at Court, he vvas accounted for the Head of the Catholick Party, not sparing to declare what free and frequent accesses he gave the principall Sticklers in that cause both Priests and Iesuites, and the speciall services vvhichwhich he did them: And it must be somewhat more than strange if all this be true, that he should hate Popery vvith a perfect hatred; yet not more strange then that he should so stickle in the preferment of Dr. Theodore Price to the Arch-Bishoprick of Armagh in Ireland, who died a profest Catholick, reconciled to the Church of Rome, as our Author hath it, Fol. 226. But if there be no more truth in the Bishop of Lincolns hating Popery, then in Dr. … dying a professed Papist, there is no credit to be given at all to that part of the Character. Dr. Price, though once a great Favourite of this Bishop, and by him continued Sub-Dean of Westminster many years together, vvas at the last suppos'd to be better affected to Bishop Laud, than to Bishop Williams, Bishop Laud having lately appeared a Sui…or for him for the Bishoprick of St. Asaph. And therefore that two Birds might be kild with the same bol…; no sooner vvas Dr. Price deceased, but the Bishop of Lincoln being then at Westminster, calls the Prebends together, tells them that he had been with Mr. Sub-Deane before his death, that he left him in very doubtfull tearmes about Religion, and consequently could not tell in what form to bury him; that if the Dr. had died a profest Papist he would have buried him himselfe, but being as it was, he could not see how any of the Prebendaries could either with safety or with credit performe that office. But the Artifice and design being soon discovered, took so little effect that Dr. Newel one of the Senior Prebendaries performed the Obsequies, the rest of the whole Chapiter attending the body to the grave, with all due solemnity.

Fuller.

I deny not but as a States-man, he might do some civill offices to the Romish party in that Juncture of time, in compliance to King Iames his commands, But this amounteth not to prove him a Lover of Popery.

As for Dr. Price, I will not rake into his ashes. If he dyed a protestant,'twas the better for him; but the contrary is generally reported, printed, believed.

Dr. Heylyn.

Our Author proceeds, Fol. 228. He was so great an honourer of the English Liturgy, that of his owne cost he caused the same to be translated into Spanish, and fairly printed, to confute their false conceipt of our Church, &c.] If this be true, it makes not onelyonly to his honour, but also to the honour of the English Liturgy, translated into more Languages then any Liturgy in the world, whatsoever it be; translated into Latine by Alexander Alesius, a learned Scot in King Edwards time; as afterward by Dr. Walter Haddon in the reign of Queen Elizabeth and his translation mended by Dr. Mocket in the time of King Iames: translated into French by the command of that King, for the Isles of Guernsey and Iersey: into Spanish at the charge of this Bishop (as our Author telleth us): and finally into Greek by one Mr. Petly, by whom it was dedicated and presented to the late Arch-Bishop of Canterbury, the greatest Patron and Advancer of the English Liturgy. But secondly, I have some reason to doubt, that the Liturgy was not translated at the charges of Bishop Williams. That it was done by his pocurement I shall easily grant: but whosoever made the Bill of Charges, the Church paid the reckoning; the Dominican Fryer who translated it, being rewarded with a Benefice and a good Prebend, as the Bishop himselfe did signifie by letter to the Duke of Buckingham.

Fuller.

I have been credibly informed by those who have best cause to know it, That it was done not onelyonly by his procurement but at his Cost, Though I deny not but that a benefice might be conferred on the Fryer in reward of his paines. Thus far I am assured by such as saw it, That the Bishop (who had more skill in the Spanish then his policy would publiquely own), did with his owne hand correct every sheet therein.

Dr. Heylyn.

And as for the printing of the book, I cannot think that it was at his charges neither, but at the charges of the Printer; it not being usuall to give the Printer, money and the copy too.

Fuller.

The Animadvertor so well practised in printing knowes full well, That though i… be usuall to give Money and Copies too for a saleable book, which being Printed in our owne tongue is every mans Money; yet a Spanish Book printed in England is chargeable, meeting with few buyers, because few understanders thereof.

Dr. Heylyn.

And Thirdly, Taking it for granted, that the Liturgy was translated and printed at this Bishop's charges; yet does not this prove him to be so great an honourer of it as our Author makes him. For had he been indeed a true honourer of the English Liturgy, he would have been a more diligent attendant on it than he shewed himself: never repairing to the Church at Westminster (whereof he was Dean) from the 18. of February 1635. when the businesse of the great Pew was judged against him, till his Commitment to the Tower in Iuly 1637.

Fuller.

One reason why he seldome came to Prayers to Westminster Church, was, because he was permitted but little to live there, after he fell into the King's displeasure, being often sent away the day after he came thither. On the same token, that once Sr. Iohn Cook being sent unto him to command him to avoid the Deanery; Mr. Secretary, said the Bishop, what Authority have you to command a Man out of his owne House? Which wrought so much on the old Knight, that he was not quiet till he had gotten his owne pardon.

Dr. Heylyn.

Nor ever going to the Chappell of the Tower (where he was a Prisoner) to attend the Divine Service of the Church, or receive the Sacrament, from Iuly 1637. when he was committed, to November 1640. when he was enlarged. A very strong Argument that he was no such Honourer of the English Liturgy, as is here pretended: A Liturgy most highly esteemed in all places wheresoever it came, and never so much vilified, despis'd, condemn'd as amongst our selves; and those amongst our selves who did so vilifie and despise it, by none more countenanced then by him, who is here said to be so great an Honourer o… it.

Fuller.

Though (for reasons best known to himselfe) he went not to Prayers in the Tower Chappell, yet was he his own Chaplain to read them in his own Chamber. And let me add this memorable passage thereunto.

During his durance in the Tower, there was a Kinsman of Sr. William Balforés then Lieutenant, a Scotish man (and his name, Mr. Melvin too) who being mortally sick, sent for Bishop Williams to pray with him. The Bishop read to him the Visitation of the sick, having fore-acquainted this dying man, That there was a form of Absolution in this Prayer, if he thought fit to receive it: Wherewith Mr. Melvin was not onelyonly well satisfied, but got himselfe up as well as he could on his knees in the bed, and in that posture received Absolution.

Dr Heylyn.

But for this Blow our Author hath his Buckler ready, telling us, Ibid. Not out of Sympathy to Non-conformists, but Antipathy to Arch-bishop Laud, he was favourable to some select Persons of that Opinion. An Action somewhat like to that of the Earl of Kildare, who being accused before Henry the Eighth, for burning the Cathedrall Church of Cassiles in Ireland, profess'd ingeniously, That he would never have burnt the Church, if some body had not told him that the Bishop was in it. Hate to that Bishop, an Arch-Bishop of Ireland, incited that mad Earl to burn his Cathedrall Church. And hate to Bishop Laud, the Primate and Metropolitan of all England, stir'd up this Bishop to raise a more unquenchable Combustion in the Church of England. So that we may affirm of him as Tertullian (in another case) of the Primitive Christians, viz. Tanti non est bonum, quanti est odium Christianorum. But are we sure that he was favourable to the Non-Conformists out of an antipathy to Bishop Laud onelyonly? I believe not so. His antipathy to the King did as strongly byass him that way, as any thing else. For which I have the Testimony of the Author of the History of King Charls, publisht 1656. who telleth us of him, That being malevolently inclin'd (about the losse of the great Seal), &c.

Fuller.

I will not advocate for all the actions of Bishop Williams, and though the Animadvertor beholds my pen as over-partiall unto him, yet I know who it was that wrote unto me, Semper es iniquior in Archiepiscopum Eboracensem.

I am a true honourer of his many excellent virtues, and no excuser of his Faults, who could heartily wish, That the latter part of his Life had been like the beginning thereof.

Dr. Heylyn.

And so I take my leave of this great Prelate, whom I both reverence for his Place, and honour for his Parts, as much as any. And yet I cannot choose but say, that I find more reason to condemn, then there is to commend him; so that we may affirm of him as the Historian doth of Cajus Caesar, Son of Agrippa, and Nephew to the great Augustus, viz. Tam variè se gessit, ut nec laudaturum magna, nec vituperaturum mediocris materia deficiat, as my Author hath it. And with the same Character, accommodated to our Author, and this present History, I conclude these Notes; subjoyning onelyonly this old Saying as well for my comfort as defence, viz.

Truth, though it may be blam'd, can never be sham'd.

Fuller.

Here the Animadvertor doth Tickle and Pinch me both together, yet neither will I laugh nor cry, but keep my former composure.

I will take no notice of a piece of MEZENTISM in his joyning of the Dead and Living together, and conceive my selfe far unworthy, to be parallel'd in the least degree with his Eminences.

However I will endeavour with the Gladiators foreign, honestè decumbere, that when I can fight no longer, I may fall handsomely, in the Scene of this Life.

May God, who gave it, have the glory of what is good in me, my selfe the shame of what is bad, which I ought to labour to amend.