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Rejoinder to Bristows Reply · William Fulke

Rejoinder to Bristows Reply, Title page – Errata

A REIOYNDER to Bristows Replie in defence of Allens scroll of Articles and Booke of Purgatorie. Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the Supper of our Lord, and the Apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, CONFVTED BY WILLIAM FVLKE, DOCTOR IN DIVINITIE, AND Master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge.

Seene and allowed.

AT LONDON, Printed by H. Middleton for George Bishop. ANNO. 1581.

To the Christian Reader.

ALlen the Author of the Popish challenge (as it is now confessed) and of the Booke of Purgatorie, as he alwayes acknowledged, finding mine answere to both these treatises, so well grounded vponupon the authoritie of the holy Scriptures, and testimonies of the most ancient writers, that albeit he might quarell at many bie matters, yet he was not able to auoyd the substance of mine arguments, and answeres: determined not to aduenture his credite, in publishing any replie vnderunder his owne name, and therefore turned ouer the businesse to one Bristowe, whose impudence being approued in his Motiues, and demaundes, was thought more meete to take so desperate a cause in hand. Bristowe himselfe on the otherside, perceiuing that it was impossible for him to make any shewe of replie, that might satisfie any meane witte, if hee should followe me orderly and directly, from point to point, as I hauehave followed Allen, durst not once vndertake that lawfull course of replying, which I hauehave alwayes obserued in answering, but by confounding of many diuers matters together, hath sought to bring a great mist vponupon the cause, vnderunder which hee might rather hide then defende his master Allen, and he himselfe like a pretie man, nowe and then start out and giuegive a perilous blowe, and so retyre into his cloude againe. For this purpose it was not sufficient for him, leauing all order of replying, to take vponupon him the confutation of two books of myne, of most diuerse matters, in one of his, but that the confusion might bee greater, and the light of trueth appeare much lesser, he must defende two more of his owne. So that hauing nowe iumbled together no lesse then sixe treatises in one, two of Allens, two of mine, and two of his owne, he thinketh himselfe so well armed with darkenes and confusion, that if he cannot hauehave a conquest, yet he may be sure to hauehave a starting hole to hide himselfe in. And first he findeth great fault that his motiues and demaunds (which most men for the great follie shewed in thē dispised) were not first answered: dreming that my books should neuer hauehave beene put in print, but to make a shewe of answere to his motiues and demaunds. But how vainely he gesseth, mine answere printed, to those wodden workes of his, doth plainely discouer. Of like vanitie and more impudence it is, that hee affirmeth constantly, that I was faigne to set foorth those bookes without priuiledge (albeit I say the one was authorized) distinguishing betweene priuiledge and authoritie, wherein I know not what the peeuish quareller meaneth. For this I am sure, that both those bookes, had such approbation and license to be printed, as al bookes concerning religion ought to hauehave, by the Queenes iniunctions, which I call & count a sufficient authorizing. Concerning priuileging, I suppose Bristowe cauelleth, because he knoweth not what the name of a priuiledge signifieth, for which I will remit him to some lawyer to learne. But where I affirmed, that my booke was authorised two yeares before it was imprinted, he douteth whether he may beleeue my bare word, because I write in the same, We beleue that the Catholike Church hath no cheefe gouernour vponupon earth, but Christ, vntounto whom all power is giuen in heauen & in earth. But I pray thee Bristow, what doth this hinder thee to beleeue me vponupon my bare word? Thou demandest a question in the margent, What if the Church were in England onelyonly, or one were King of all Countries, sometime where it is? I might, according to Salomons aduise, answere thee according to thy folly, & deferre my resolution vntill either the Church be in England only: or that one were King of all Countries where it is. But lest thou shouldst thinke thy selfwise in thy folish question, I answere, that if either of both those cases should come to passe, which are both impossible: Christ should stil reteine his office and power that he hath in heauen and earth, and that one King of England, or of many coūtries, should hauehave no more authoritie ouer the Church, then the Queene of England now hath ouer that portion of the Church, that is in England, or ouer all those portions that are in other her seuerall dominions.

But whereas Bristow saith, my former booke commeth forth only by permissiō to make a shew of somewhat for a time, & if after it chaunce of some Papist to be dasht out of countenance, then the shame to be no mans but onelyonly Fulkes: I wish the gentle reader to consider two thinges. First, that he will charge no man with the shame of mine errors, if any he can proue, but me onelyonly, as in deede there is no reason that any man should beare the blame of my folly, but my selfe, & least of al the church of God. Secōdly that by quarelling at the want of priuiledge and authorizing of my writinges, he acknowledgeth this his owne booke of reply, to lacke neither priuiledge nor authoritie, so that if I not onelyonly dash it out of countenaunce, but also shewe it to be voyde of wisdome, learning and trueth, the shame shall not be priuate to Bristow alone, but cōmon to all the popish faction beyond the sea, & on this side the same, by whose cō mon consent it seemeth to be penned and set foorth. Bristows reply is conteined in 13. Chapters, to eueryevery of which, and to eueryevery part of them, as they are intitled by himselfe, I will answere in order, that they which liste to conferre my Reioynder with his Reply, may see I seeke not by confusion to couer any falshood, but by orderly proceeding to bring the trueth to light.

Faultes escaped. The first number signifieth the page, the last the number of the lines.

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A REIOYNDER TO BRISTOWES REPLY IN DEFENCE OF ALLENS SCROLL OF ARTICLES AND BOOKE OF PVRGATORIE.

By W. F. D. in diuinitie.

The first Chapter.

I will shew briefely that Fulke confesseth, out of the true Church Bristowe.to be no saluation.

FVlke hath alwayes beleeued Fulke.since god gaue him knowledge of his trueth, & therefore freely confessed, that out of the true Church of Christ, there can be no saluation. But whereas Bristowe inferreth that it is openly practized in the Popish Church, to take in men by Baptisme first, and then by reconciliation to receiue them if any went out, or were cast out: thereby to insinuate, that the Popish Church is the true Church, it is an argument voyde of al consequens. For if the ceremoniall outward practise of baptisme & reconciliation, were able to proue the practizers to bee the true Church, not onelyonly the papistes, but all other sects of heretikes practizing the same, should be ye true Church. This is the first argument, and as good as the best he maketh, to proue the heresie of Popery to be the true Church of Christ.